The Sarah Connor Chronicles

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

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[darthweef]

Interesting...

It looks good, but I question whether it would be a sustainable story line for tv series...

The same terminatoresq fights each week would get a bit tedious... they would have to come up with something to keep the story moving.

[Chris]

I've downloaded the pilot . . . it's pretty good.

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

I've downloaded the pilot . . . it's pretty good.
i'm dling it now :D

[Chris]

Interesting...

It looks good, but I question whether it would be a sustainable story line for tv series...

The same terminatoresq fights each week would get a bit tedious... they would have to come up with something to keep the story moving.

Maybe the destruction of cyberdyne and keeping the cops off their backs that kind of thing.

[Chris]

i'm dling it now :D

Don't forget to suspend your disbelief . . . there are a couple of corny crowd pleasing moments. But what can you do?

[Tigh's Eyepatch]

dl'ed the pilot for this a while ago, and I can't say I was impressed. The premise felt a bit forced (they had to basically retcon some pretty crucial parts of T2 to make it work), and I didn't see anything to particularly hook me, other than Summer Glau :D. Dunno, maybe I'll catch a couple more eps whent hey come online, but so far, no go for me.

[Pike]

dI didn't see anything to particularly hook me, other than Summer Glau :D.

Can't. Parse. Sentence...

[epicduelgirl]

I love the Terminator movies.. well the first two, and three was entertaining, but I thought the pilot for this series was pretty bad. I am foreseeing this a huge disappointment...

[Sean]

Personally, I'll watch it just to help support Summer Glau or any other Firefly cast member who manages to make it back to the tube or screen. ;)

[TK421]

I would love to see the show totally negate the entire 3rd 'movie' as it was a terrible way to end the series... and, of course, Summer Glau, I'll pretty much watch anything she's on....

[Pike]

Note to the future: If you have to send back a cybernetic bodyguard to protect me, I would very much prefer the Summer Glau model. Kthnxbai.

[ATGreat]

Or a Morena Baccarin model. Either one would be fine with me...

[Leon Kensington]

I don't know, I REALLY wouldn't mind a Kaylee model...or perhaps a 6 or a 3 or a 6 AND a 3 AND Morena Baccarin. Ohhh, that would be nice!

[The Alpaca Herder]

A Kaylee model surely sounds interesting.

[Dismal in Denial]

My son and I watched this a few weeks ago and loved it (gotta love bittorent). We've definitely got the Tivo set to record going forward.

Summer Glau isn't really my style; I'm more of a Jewel Staite (Firefly Kaylee), Nicki Clyne (BSG Cally) and Gina Torres (Firefly Zoe) kind of guy...


Oh, and isn't Sarah the same actress who played the queen in 300 last year?

--- Dismal the

[wisebob134]

It was pretty good, normally these "fast paced" action shows fox puts out are total crap like fast lane but they did a good job with this one

[CodeAndrew]

I might get slammed for this but I was over at my friends dorm when this came on and we were all fairly excited about it. But it just wasn't that great. We all got to the point midways through the episode just making fun of how bad the writing was and how bad the action scenes were in most cases. Who knows maybe tonight's episode changes my mind about the series but I think this is going to be yet another series that goes away real quick.

[Splatterson]

I might get slammed for this but I was over at my friends dorm when this came on and we were all fairly excited about it. But it just wasn't that great. We all got to the point midways through the episode just making fun of how bad the writing was and how bad the action scenes were in most cases. Who knows maybe tonight's episode changes my mind about the series but I think this is going to be yet another series that goes away real quick.

Hey - after 2 months of re-runs, ANY new sci-fi is good! ;)

[Pike]

I might get slammed for this but I was over at my friends dorm when this came on and we were all fairly excited about it. But it just wasn't that great. We all got to the point midways through the episode just making fun of how bad the writing was and how bad the action scenes were in most cases. Who knows maybe tonight's episode changes my mind about the series but I think this is going to be yet another series that goes away real quick.

I was watching at a bar, so I missed half of the dialog. It LOOKED great, and from what I could make out it sounds like an interesting story premise. Can't speak for the writing yet, though.

[Splatterson]

Note to the future: If you have to send back a cybernetic bodyguard to protect me, I would very much prefer the Summer Glau model. Kthnxbai.

While I do like Summer, I think I would prefer a Nathan Fillion model. :D

Actually, I would like the "naked Nathan Fillion sitting on a rock" model...

[Leon Kensington]

No Spatterson, you just want naked Nathan Fillion! :)

[dxf]

Opening with (not) shocking dream sequence = boo. They justified it with the exposition. But still...

"Class dismissed" = boo.

"Half an hour. One bag. And the guns. I'll go make pancakes." = okay, that was amusing.

And there was another good line, but I forget it.

"I am different." = boo. Why not add in, "... Because I know how to love"?

The future resistance sent an engineer back in time to work on the vault? Why not just have your agent open a safety deposit box or six instead?

I think it's cool how this Terminator moves like the morphing T-1000 in T2. Guy did his homework.

I wonder if this model, like the last female Terminator, can make her boobs grow, too.

Sorry, that was uncalled for. I'm still frackin' p*ssed about Terminator III. T2, for me, is as good as movies get. Or close. It's one of those artistic and technological moments where things might get fancier after it, but they'll never match its raw content. I'll take T2 over the Jurassic Parks (boo) and the Matrix movies (which, don't get me wrong, are fine) any day. T3 just stank on ice. Maybe the biggest squandered opportunity in the history of motion pictures. A terminator with morphing breasts that can telekentically manipulate motored vehicles? Boo-hiss. Crane scene? Boooooring. And I still can't believe they kept that seven-year-old "talk to the hand" joke. I generally don't believe in hating, but I'll make an exception for T3.

Back to TV: Am I the only one who has trouble getting excited about all the gunplay and explosions in the first episode? I know I'm supposed to suspend my disbelief, but neither Connor or the Terminatress is gonna get killed in the first episode. Come on.

Glad they brought the boyfriend back. He's one of those guys who's gonna get the right role one day, and people will be like, "Wow, he's good."

[The Lonely Toaster]

Okay, after seeing both days I'll say this.
It's got some great casting, editing, cinematography and production values; good writing and acting (mostly); and some interesting plot prospects.
It's got promise, but the kind that is easily screwed up.
It's gonna take some clever and skilled people to make this work over the long haul, but right now I'm kinda rooting for it.
I feel it may be a guilty pleasure like season 1 of Prison Break.

[Splatterson]

No Spatterson, you just want naked Nathan Fillion! :)

Oh yeah, that's it! Think my husband would mind? :D

[The Operator]

Note to the future: If you have to send back a cybernetic bodyguard to protect me, I would very much prefer the Summer Glau model. Kthnxbai.

Nope sorry, nope---Get me an Angelina Jolie Model (hot AND quite adept with the weapons...no not THOSE....you people are sick! Although I'm sure she's quite good with those too) - call her the T-1-Hotness.

Perhaps a Jessica Alba model (ala Dark Angel)?

Hell - as long as it ain't the Grandpa Goo model - cuz he won't do anything except sit around and tell you how bad stuff is gonna get.

[shrekjdr]

Ok I just watched them and was very impressed! So we shall see if the rest of the season is just as good and that Fox does not cancel it!

[frakkintalos]

I found myself missing Arnie. Those goons they got to play the tincans just didn't measure up. No one delivers a one-liner like Arnie, the Henny Youngman of action flicks. Who else could deliver a line like, 'Hello cutie pie' and not lose credibility? (different film, I know)

"Hasta la vista, BABY."

[Topgun]

I realized this morning that my wonderful wifey had Tivo'ed the first two shows, so after breakfast I checked the show out. I must admit I was very surprised. I liked it ! The effects hold up, and the writing was not brain-damagingly bad, (a la Bionic Woman). The actors don't drag you out of the story (a la Bionic Woman)...ok, ok, sorry, but BW was disappointing and I seem to be holding a grudge...I do miss Arnie, of course, but yes, the actors playing the cyborgs do have the moves down for the most part. Summer Glau (sp?) wouldn't be my dream choice, I'll forever be a Sarah M Gellar fan when it comes to watching a yummy babe kick butt, vampire or otherwise, with A Jolie a close second. All in all I think this one deserves a look and I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for continuing goodness.

[Lady D]

I found myself missing Arnie.

Come to California. Living under his rule will cure you of that really fast. (A couple of weeks ago he unveiled his budget with over a billion dollars in education cuts. "Hasta la vista"? Don't I wish!)

[Pike]

Come to California. Living under his rule will cure you of that really fast. (A couple of weeks ago he unveiled his budget with over a billion dollars in education cuts. "Hasta la vista"? Don't I wish!)

Fraking Microsoft shill...

[frakkintalos]

Come to California. Living under his rule will cure you of that really fast. (A couple of weeks ago he unveiled his budget with over a billion dollars in education cuts. "Hasta la vista"? Don't I wish!)

Opposed to popular belief, as a sci-fi geek, I am quite capable of separating my fantasy and reality. Actors and politics, don't get me started. I say to thee, "Stay with what you do best!" I just watched the recent Cruise debacle (http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress
). It's like inbred royalty all over again. But that's religion. Ugh, religion and politics, what witches brew am I stirring up? Anywho, Cruise reminds me of the facist dictactor who looked like the Chaplin tramp.

[Battlestar Gigzlactica]

I just saw the first episode (yay free download on iTunes) and I must say this looks pretty sweet.... Forgive me when I say I haven't seen the movies... (its on my list of things to do... I swear!) However, the show looks pretty awesome so far... Summer Glau? Yes please.... and of course, show music is by our own....

Bear McCreary! (sp?)

Hey Galacticrew, you should totally get hm back on the show again.... I'm sure you guys would have a lot to talk about now with him doing two awesome shows!

[Topgun]

haven't. seen. the. movies ???? Yikes....skip number three, but go rent the first two, and pretend it's 1984.

[Timbuck]

I am digging this new show. It could only be better if Sci-Fi (or whomever) makes "Caprica"!

SSWA,
Timbuck

[Timbuck]

Which cave do you live in? Is Osama there?

[dxf]

Last week's Entertainment weekly made an interesting point about how one of the show's angles is showing how two strong women help turn Nancy-boy John Connor into a leader of men. And I like that.

Still haven't finished part two of the debut, but I'm liking how they've just surrendered some continuity points to go buck-wild with the possibilities of the travel concept, and make it the universe the playing field for a big temporal chess game.

Anyone wanna talk about best time travel movies in a separate thread? 'Cuz I have strong (positive) feelings about T2, 12 Monkeys, and -- yes -- Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey. And what was the time travel movie Sean mentioned a couple 'casts back, the one where a guy can see two minutes into the future?

[Mike P]

I am really enjoying the series so far, although I thought the pilot episode was noticeably stronger than the second episode. (Which is too bad, since they will be in our "present" from here on out. Well, we'll see.) I must say, I have never seen any of the Terminator movies, and primarily checked this out because it was new scripted science fiction -- but I was pleasantly surprised at how quickly the writing brought me up to speed on what I needed to know; I loved the action sequences (especially in the school -- what a literalization of an adolescent's feeling that the teacher "has it in for you" or "is gunning for you," eh?) and thought they were fine, especially for what can be done on TV budgets/constraints; and, yeah, I'd like a Summer Glau model, too. :-) Now I need to go back and watch the movies to appreciate it even more -- but, unlike most of the viewing audience, I guess, I will have this Sarah and John Connor stuck in my mind as the models to which to compare the film cast!!

I hope it does well, especially if the strike lingers on -- my fear is, like other sci-fi (and other) shows, a continuing strike will mean it doesn't really have a chance of surviving.

[Audra]

If there's a 'bot coming back for me, make it a Daniel Craig model! (Although Nathan Fillion would be fine too.)

For those who haven't seen the Terminator movies, I highly recommend them. I admit, even though I saw T2 when it came out, it was only last year that I first saw the first movie. But it was great! (And yes, it helps to pretend it's 1984.) When T2 came out I had sort of a crush on Eddie Furlong (the young John Connor) but couldn't get past his bad-boy image - among my eleven-year old friends, that is. I loved that long-on-top hair back in '91. ;)

Haven't seen any of the new series, but I'll try to check it out.

Lady D - Education cuts?? Ugh - little else gets me that angry, but I'll leave it a saying, I'm with you on that one.

[Pike]

I just saw the first episode (yay free download on iTunes) and I must say this looks pretty sweet....

Odd. It's listed as free on the ITMS home page, but when you click through it's listed as $1.99.

[Pixielass]

If there's a 'bot coming back for me, make it a Daniel Craig model! (Although Nathan Fillion would be fine too.)

A David Boreanaz Model for me please!

[Nickname Boomer]

liked the show, thought it was good, just don't see it lasting more than two seasons without jumping that damn shark, but that's up to the writers still pretty damn cool for now.

coarse i've watched T2 about 30 times, somehow i've never watched T1. so i'm partial to the story.

[Mike P]

Maybe they can do like BSG and just plan a coherent story arc -- be it two seasons or however long -- and do it, and do it well. I liked tonight's episode, too, although it was more slow paced than the first two -- but the character work was really strong, I thought. I love Cameron trying to fit in at a high school!

[The Alpaca Herder]

liked the show, thought it was good, just don't see it lasting more than two seasons without jumping that damn shark, but that's up to the writers still pretty damn cool for now.

coarse i've watched T2 about 30 times, somehow i've never watched T1. so i'm partial to the story.


Maybe they can do like BSG and just plan a coherent story arc -- be it two seasons or however long -- and do it, and do it well. I liked tonight's episode, too, although it was more slow paced than the first two -- but the character work was really strong, I thought. I love Cameron trying to fit in at a high school!

No show must last forever. From what I saw tonight I think two seasons would do justice to the story. Tonight was the first episode that I got to watch. It was quite good. Of course, prior to that, what was watched was Delta Farce (http://imdb.com/title/tt0800003/) followed by Antique Road-show (http://imdb.com/title/tt0159847/). All in all that was an interesting mix.

Summer Glau seems to have been typecast perhaps?

[iGhost]

I enjoyed the pilot, thought it was pretty good - but each episode since then IMO has gotten just a little worse. I dont see it getting renewed for a 2nd season. But Im also one of the few who actually really liked Terminator 3. Im not holding out much hope for Terminator 4 though even though I am a Christian Bale fan.

[dxf]

coarse i've watched T2 about 30 times, somehow i've never watched T1. so i'm partial to the story.

Really? That's fascinating. And I say that with all due respect. I'm always fascinated by how sequels work from different perspectives.

Wanna know how T1 ends?

[sircastor]

The pilot wasn't bad. I liked the story concept of bringing it into 2007. I agree that it doesn't have much of a chance beyond 2 seasons. I'm hoping though that those two seasons are full seasons and that the last episode ties everything together, rather than just sputtering out.

[sircastor]

coarse i've watched T2 about 30 times, somehow i've never watched T1. so i'm partial to the story.

They're two very different films. The feel is different, the direction is different (even though they're both Cameron films). IMO, T2 is a better film by far. It's been a while since I've seen T1, but the way that I would compare them is to say that T1 is almost like a thriller/horror and T2 is more of an action film.

[dxf]

Just finished Monday's episode, with the Titanium caper, or whatever the stuff was, and the bomb shelter, and the guy from Deadwood. I'm liking the show. Already like it more than T3.

Summer Glau is good. In like three or five ways.

[wisebob134]

I think they need to have more than 3 characters and a villain or two. May'be get a resistance group going. One storyline is a rough to stretch over an hour.

[Dismal in Denial]

I've seen the first few episodes and they were better then most TV...

Here's something... Have you heard about the possible real-world time-travel scenario going on in Switzerland later this year? I heard about it on the BBC last week.

http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2209280/travel-possible-months

However, they are talking about the unlikely possibility the supercollider might propel some sub-atomic particles several picoseconds (one trillionth (10-12) of a second) through time. Nothing about flesh covered combat robots with nice abs. Most of the discussion seems to be how you can tell if it does happen.

--- Dismal the geek

[dxf]

I think they need to have more than 3 characters and a villain or two. May'be get a resistance group going. One storyline is a rough to stretch over an hour.

Good point. Looks like they're maybe heading that way.

I like the good cop-bad cop thing Sarah and the Terminator have going on. Also dig the FBI agent's workplace dynamics.

[rushfanrich]

I only saw the second episode so far, bit of the same feel as the Bionic woman. Gota say I like this better. Ladies are better to look at as well.:D

[rushfanrich]

Here's something... Have you heard about the possible real-world time-travel scenario . . . <snip> . . the unlikely possibility the supercollider might propel some sub-atomic particles several picoseconds (one trillionth (10-12) of a second) through time.

Wow! how do you even begin to measure that short bit of time? Do they have photo finish cameras incase the guy watching the stopwatch was asleep at the switch?

On another note related, i heard on a recent NPR, This American Life about a guy who lost his father at a young age, and all his life devoted his study to time travel. he was legit and at 55, developed a paper on the subject that was taken very seriously in the science community. He also recently realized the machine, if worked, would only transport an object at best to when the machine was created. it does sound like what you described is being tested across the pond.

[Starbuccaneer]

On another note related, i heard on a recent NPR, This American Life about a guy who lost his father at a young age, and all his life devoted his study to time travel. he was legit and at 55, developed a paper on the subject that was taken very seriously in the science community. He also recently realized the machine, if worked, would only transport an object at best to when the machine was created. it does sound like what you described is being tested across the pond.

Was this the same episode which used part of the Studio 360 show on Nicola Tessla as its third act? I listened to the podcast of that This American Life and then that afternoon caught the full Tessla episode on the actual radio. That was cool. Did you know that Tessla and Mark Twain used to sit around shooting each other with the ray gun that Tessla invented? Huge, MASSIVE amounts of radiation straight to the face. Maybe this explains why Mark Twain was so eccentric?

I <3 TAL and Ira Glass.

[The Fair Melissa]

I saw a "T-SCC" commercial last week and the announcer said that Summer was "not your average toaster". Nice

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

ok, i'm up to the last episode now. I have to say the following:

1. the first episdoe sucked. at first it was really cool, because i haven't had a terminator fix until the last movie, and i was happy to see any terminators, but then i realized; summer gave the worst rendition of 'come with me if you want to live' EVER. Also, i found it strange that she looked, acted, walked, talked like a normal girl until the other terinator tried to off john, then she turned into the cybog. Very strange. hope they have some way of explaining that because it makes no sense whatsoever. that being said...

2. if you discount (or just don't watch the first episode), from episode 2 on, the acting & story are 100 times better. cameron is better as a hot terminator and not the 'thing' she was in episode 1. The writers are getting a grip on their characters, and the show is better every episode now. The flash forwards are great, the terminators are great, and i know those things can be expensive to do. hope this goes on a few seasons at the same rate it's going now.

[Phoenix]

I liked the finale quite a bit. I hope that Fox picks it up for more episodes, and we'll hear an announcement soon.

I also hope Brian Austin Green sticks around!

[Emilyfromohio]

While, to me, it did start out a bit slow, wow, it just ended in such a awesome way. I want more!

I think producers should just stop pitching their stuff to fox. American idol is making them laz (fox i mean)

[Tesseract]

I saw a "T-SCC" commercial last week and the announcer said that Summer was "not your average toaster". Nice

I love it!

[The Lonely Toaster]

The swimming pool, the birthday present...
some really nice touches in the finale.
(and I love Silent Barb)
The series has dropped enough open-ended plot threads to prove story potential, but this last episode proved it has some fine creative talent to craft them too.

[dxf]

OK. Finally watched all the semi-finale. Some very good stuff.

Really, really liked the birthday present.

Overall, I think the series found its footing pretty quick.

I'm not really feeling the Deadwood guy as the fake FBI terminator, but I can live with him.

I'm a huge Johnny Cash fan, but I didn't like the soundtrack for the scene at the end so much. Once a song has been used in one film/TV show, it should be banned for all future use. They should pass a law, call it The Jeff Buckley "Hallelujah" Act.

The big end should be interesting for future use of the Summer Glau terminator. I hope she climbs of the wreckage, all flaming, and pounds the bejeepers outta the guy, with firy fists of fury.

More props on the birthday present. That was a really nice little bit. Reminded me of 12 Monkeys, but not creepy.

Anyone know if they picked the series up, and when/if we can expect more?

[Cami's mom]

The --> WARNING, depending on the accuracy of the source, there might be spoilers at this URL --> E! Online gossip (http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=69f7cad7-f180-4b6d-ba1e-c0999930a41b) is that there will be a season 2. Nothing official tho.

[Pike]

It's official (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b132183_iSarah_Connor_Chroni.html). TSCC got a 13 episode re-up.

[Doc]

W00t!!!!!!

[Yorick]

awesome, loved season 1. And it's coming back in September :)

[hicks]

Awesome news about season 2! I was hooked on the first season after about the first 3 episodes. I really like the fact that John got to see his father.

There is a Terminator 4 in the works..... so I'm wondering if they'll try to interlace it with the chornicles? It's rumored to be about the first days of the war.

[dxf]

Awesome news about season 2! I was hooked on the first season after about the first 3 episodes. I really like the fact that John got to see his father.

There is a Terminator 4 in the works..... so I'm wondering if they'll try to interlace it with the chornicles? It's rumored to be about the first days of the war.

I think I read something about the TV show being out of film continuity.

[CountIblisRules]

September 8, 2008.

[TighFighter]

Sweet

Something to look forward to. I like the series. It was a little slow starting out but the last couple of episodes picked up, especially the strike induced finale.

[dxf]

Bear McCreary's blog says they're gonna release his Terminator Season I as a soundtrack CD.

[dxf]

I liked season one.

Season two premiere: Meeeehhhhhhhh

Three different points made me think, "Eugh, what is this horse[craaaap]?"

Yet I'll continue watching.

[sumik]

Wow. I really enjoyed the season premiere. I thought it moved quickly and that it set things up nicely for the season.

Plus, Shirley Manson was nicely creepy as the T-1000.

[dxf]

Wow. I really enjoyed the season premiere. I thought it moved quickly and that it set things up nicely for the season.

Plus, Shirley Manson was nicely creepy as the T-1000.

Manson does have a certain presence, I'll give her that. I figure the show will hit its stride again. Plus, they have a few more episodes to work with.

[Yorick]

Pretty good second season premiere.

I loved the song in the first 5 minutes of the episode (which you can watch in full here (http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=tscc)). It was apparently rearranged and recorded by Shirley Manson (the T-1000 and singer of Garbage) and Bear McCreary.

[Pike]

...Shirley Manson (the T-1000 and singer of Garbage) ...

Thank you! That was bugging me.

[CylonMATRIX]

Nope sorry, nope---Get me an Angelina Jolie Model (hot AND quite adept with the weapons...no not THOSE....you people are sick! Although I'm sure she's quite good with those too) - call her the T-1-Hotness.

Perhaps a Jessica Alba model (ala Dark Angel)?

Hell - as long as it ain't the Grandpa Goo model - cuz he won't do anything except sit around and tell you how bad stuff is gonna get.

...were you referring to Angie's guns? I just lurve double entendres (omg, that was a double-entendre by itself!):eek:

[Apollymy]

I liked it!

And as for Shirley Manson turning out to be a T-1000, I never saw it coming. When they showed the guy running his mouth, I knew she was gonna be listening, but I never expected what happened. It made me laugh, anyway.

I'm enjoying the series, and I know I need to go back and re-watch the movies...

[frakkintalos]

I liked it!

And as for Shirley Manson turning out to be a T-1000, I never saw it coming. When they showed the guy running his mouth, I knew she was gonna be listening, but I never expected what happened. It made me laugh, anyway.

I'm enjoying the series, and I know I need to go back and re-watch the movies...

I know this is pompous but I saw it all the way.

OTOH, I'm am so sick of the cold bitch executive role, though. I'm surprised they didn't get Admiral Ro to play the role. I'm glad they didn't but you get my meaning. (I hope).

I was watching 'Fringe' last night and again...cold bitch exec. Why can't they just play it cool? It's like they all went to the Sigourney Weaver in 'Working Girl' school of acting. If you play it cool, it comes off more menacing. When it's played the other way, I'm like take a Midol. It's demeaning...haha...that's pretty funny given my previous statement. But it is. What? A woman must be a bitch to succeed? That says alot to some young, impressionable woman out there.

For example, the Oracle in the Matrix plays it cool. She's not a bitch at all, but she plays the chess master just the same. Why can't a woman exec role be play that way?

I think if she had gone with cool, the bathroom scene would have been more of an "Oh snap!" moment instead of a "Bitch!" moment.

[dxf]

I liked it!

And as for Shirley Manson turning out to be a T-1000, I never saw it coming. When they showed the guy running his mouth, I knew she was gonna be listening, but I never expected what happened. It made me laugh, anyway.

I'm enjoying the series, and I know I need to go back and re-watch the movies...

Atchally, the movies and series are both best enjoyed as separate entities. If I remember right, T2 pretty much contradicts what T#1 says about time travel, but it gets it out of the way and moves on. The TV series, all the time-travel rules are out the window.

And, as one otherwise-positive review from Ain't It Cool noted, "The televsion Connors remain 90 IQ points lower than the movie Connors."

As much as I meh'd and groaned about the episode, I did not see it coming that she was a T-1000.

Did anyone else get the Shirley Manson/urinal reference?

[Keara]

OK, I finally watched it last night. Some thoughts:

Shirley Manson is scary looking--in a is-her-face-made-of-plastic-covered-with-putty kind of way.

I saw that Shirley Manson's character was a Terminator (hadn't been previously spoiled on it) when she started yammering about "they" and "them" while looking down to the street and talking about how the people look orderly from a distance but close-up they aren't. The fact that she was a T-1000 was a holy shit moment for me and probably was the best moment of the episode.

The episode felt like a series of really contrived vignettes. Too many too convenient things. I think that the writers and producers knew where they wanted to go with the series and they chose to get the storyline to the starting line in a really, really clumsy way, rather than using several episodes to do it. If that is the case, then hopefully the rest of the episodes will be stronger and less clumsy and contrived. If the show continues to stretch my limits of plausibility, then I'm going to have to chuck it. I really enjoyed it a few episodes into the first season and I think it has real potential.

I was disappointed by the Cameron being "bad" storyline. I don't think it was necessary, frankly. Because of the clumsy way it was resolved it didn't add anything to the storyline. Even if they go back to it at a later date, there's no reason they couldn't have skipped it in this episode. It was a bad choice to include it. It could have been a holy shit storyline if it had continued...but it was resolved too quickly, too implausibly.

I agree that the episode was meh as a whole. I hope that I'm right and it was just a clumsy way to get the show where they want it to be for the storylines that they want to pursue this season.

[Mr. Lister, Sir]

It was a decent episode. But i gotta say i loved when Sarah was driving the car and gonna try and hit Cameron. Then Cameron stepped aside and pretty much threw the car. I was expecting her to take it head on like the usually do in other movies. Also i thought it was kinda disturbing to see Cameron's head sticking up between the two trucks.

[frakkintalos]

It was a decent episode. But i gotta say i loved when Sarah was driving the car and gonna try and hit Cameron. Then Cameron stepped aside and pretty much threw the car. I was expecting her to take it head on like the usually do in other movies.

Oh craaap I missed that part. I was in the kitchen getting dinner. I've gotta watch that again.

[Nickname Boomer]

Its okay, i'm a little tired of the stalking action, but it is terminator, i hope they pull back on action some put more into the characters.

the end of the episode was really what saved it.

i did really like the whole "promise me" thing. , and chro-marties "we'll see." after "i'll never do the devils work." at the end was a great touch the terminators not just using there muscle to kill, but working a plan. adding some interesting references to faith;

and of coarse the coolest of all the terminators, are back liquid metal, please don't decapitate me terminator

Still not sure about Shirley Manson but i haven't gotten a fair chance to see her act yet. still would be awesome if she does some new music for the show

overall i'm looking forward to the season ahead so i guess the episode did its job.

[TighFighter]

I was disappointed by the Cameron being "bad" storyline. I don't think it was necessary, frankly. Because of the clumsy way it was resolved it didn't add anything to the storyline. Even if they go back to it at a later date, there's no reason they couldn't have skipped it in this episode. It was a bad choice to include it. It could have been a holy shit storyline if it had continued...but it was resolved too quickly, too implausibly.

I don't know, the story kind of made sense to me. The show has been developing the John/Cameron relationship as John caring for Cameron and then you have her go haywire and see how that relationship could end up biting John in the ass. The part I found most interesting was when Cameron said "I love you". Was that the haywire Terminator trying to trick John or did she mean what she said? It'll be interesting to see where they go with that plot line.

I wasn't expecting the T-1000 and now I'm really hyped to see what happens next.

[joeedh]

I wouldn't say it was a clumsy episode. . .

A great deal of the episode focused on the emotional reactions of the characters. John's reaction was kindof the primary thread in that story, but all the other characters had their moments as well. It definitely seemed to me as if this was an attempt to add more realism to the story, or maybe to make the characters more real themselves. Though I admit it didn't seem as well done as it could have been.

The Cameron substory I thought was well done--except for the end. It should have been a multy-episode arc; they just didn't have enough time to properly end it in one episode. I did understand John's reactions though. Mostly because, if it were me *and* a hot terminator had saved my life that many times before (both conditions would have to be met) I wouldn't be able to resist that last little speech either :)

The parts with Shirley were somewhat more cheesy I thought. They didn't fit the episode at all. . .I suspect they were mostly to setup that this is an emotionally unstable Terminator, which sounds like an oxymoron to me (I admit I've not seen all the movies though, maybe that is possible).

Joe


OK, I finally watched it last night. Some thoughts:

Shirley Manson is scary looking--in a is-her-face-made-of-plastic-covered-with-putty kind of way.

I saw that Shirley Manson's character was a Terminator (hadn't been previously spoiled on it) when she started yammering about "they" and "them" while looking down to the street and talking about how the people look orderly from a distance but close-up they aren't. The fact that she was a T-1000 was a holy shit moment for me and probably was the best moment of the episode.

The episode felt like a series of really contrived vignettes. Too many too convenient things. I think that the writers and producers knew where they wanted to go with the series and they chose to get the storyline to the starting line in a really, really clumsy way, rather than using several episodes to do it. If that is the case, then hopefully the rest of the episodes will be stronger and less clumsy and contrived. If the show continues to stretch my limits of plausibility, then I'm going to have to chuck it. I really enjoyed it a few episodes into the first season and I think it has real potential.

I was disappointed by the Cameron being "bad" storyline. I don't think it was necessary, frankly. Because of the clumsy way it was resolved it didn't add anything to the storyline. Even if they go back to it at a later date, there's no reason they couldn't have skipped it in this episode. It was a bad choice to include it. It could have been a holy shit storyline if it had continued...but it was resolved too quickly, too implausibly.

I agree that the episode was meh as a whole. I hope that I'm right and it was just a clumsy way to get the show where they want it to be for the storylines that they want to pursue this season.

[joeedh]

I know this is pompous but I saw it all the way.
<SNIP>

I think if she had gone with cool, the bathroom scene would have been more of an "Oh snap!" moment instead of a "Bitch!" moment.

Well. . .I think it was supposed to be a "Bitch!" moment. Specifically, a "OMG! A Bitch Terminator! Is that even possible?!" sort of thing.

Joe

[dxf]

EDIT: THIS IS ABOUT SEASON 2, EPISODE 2. Coffee hasn''t kicked in yet.

First reaction: Boo.

The thing at the end, the hand-written message: That's emblematic of what's wrong with the whole series: Some kind of crazy, flashy stuff that's done for dramatic value, with little practical value.

And again, to quote Ain't It Cool: The TV Connors remain 90 IQ points lower than the movie ones. T2 Sarah Connor would never keep dropping John back into high school like that.

Yet I'm still watching.

[beef]

lastnights ep was def. slower than the 1st ep. of the season... but i wouldnt say it was horrible... i love linda hamilton, but leana just embodies sarah connor to me... ill keep watchn, i has to be a great show... if it fails with all the great stories they could hit, i just dont know what ill do....

[deathbytray]

Does anyone else think that the lady playing Sarah Conner is really, really bad at this acting thing? She sounds so wooden, practically bored even. River is playing a robot, and she sounds more animated than Sarah Conner! I can't put my finger on exactly why, but she is just so unconvincing in her delivery.

[brittonlj]

Interesting feedback. I'm personally enjoying the hell out of it. I wouldn't change anything so far. Maybe my expectations were just lower to begin with. That's a blessing I carry to many films and shows which makes my enjoyment factor so much higher than some. Then again, maybe it's the prozac.

[dxf]

Interesting feedback. I'm personally enjoying the hell out of it. I wouldn't change anything so far. Maybe my expectations were just lower to begin with. That's a blessing I carry to many films and shows which makes my enjoyment factor so much higher than some. Then again, maybe it's the prozac.

Everything looks better after T3.

[beef]

have to agree with that comment... everything does l;ook better after T3

[Mr. Lister, Sir]

Now i only caught the second half of episode 2 im gonna watch the first half today and it might change some things for me, but i think Cameron was acting really weird. The whole taking along time to respond to Sarah's questioning. I know its probably for dramatic effect but this time it all seemed really lazy. Ill keep watching it cause it looks like some cool things might be happening in the next episode but i hope the writing gets a little better.

[dxf]

This doesn't add up, but...

I just watched Ocean's 13 for the first time this week. Somehow, I found all of the impossibly elaborate scheming in Ocean's 13 more plausible than all the quick maneuvering in this week's Sarah Chronnoricles. "Let's get temp jobs in the nuclear plant, fast!!!"

[Mr. Lister, Sir]

I'm rewatching ep 2 (for the beginning which i missed last night) on Hulu and am surprised to see a very preggers Busy Philips. That makes me happy. I love Busy Philips.

[Starbuccaneer]

This doesn't add up, but...

I just watched Ocean's 13 for the first time this week. Somehow, I found all of the impossibly elaborate scheming in Ocean's 13 more plausible than all the quick maneuvering in this week's Sarah Chronnoricles. "Let's get temp jobs in the nuclear plant, fast!!!"

Yeah- how the hell did they get security clearances in one day?! I know that government is slower than the private sector, but gov't security clearances take MONTHS. And, even using fake IDs and documents, there is no way that they could have been cleared so fast.

[TighFighter]

I caught the episode on Hulu today. Pretty fair episode. It seemed to me be a set up episode. Sarah with cancer, John Cameron relation, and the T-1000 setting the machines on the pather to take over. One thing I enjoyed in the episode was the music. There was one theme in there that really reminded me of Bear's work on BSG.

[Melikon]

I was a bit disappointed with the T-1000 effects in episode 2. It didn't look as good as T2.

[BadgerSpoon]

I was disappointed by the Cameron being "bad" storyline. I don't think it was necessary, frankly. Because of the clumsy way it was resolved it didn't add anything to the storyline. Even if they go back to it at a later date, there's no reason they couldn't have skipped it in this episode. It was a bad choice to include it. It could have been a holy shit storyline if it had continued...but it was resolved too quickly, too implausibly.

What really annoyed me was that they never explained how they repaired her chip. Even "modern" microchips would be extremely difficult to repair without specialized equipment; advanced tech from the future? No way. I mean, they didn't even have the right screwdriver! Are we supposed to assume that they have access to an electron microscope and an array of delicate, complex tools, not to mention the technical skill to repair what's essentially a tiny supercomputer?


The part I found most interesting was when Cameron said "I love you". Was that the haywire Terminator trying to trick John or did she mean what she said? It'll be interesting to see where they go with that plot line.

Maybe she could have his baby! And the baby's blood cures cancer (but only temporarily). And then the kid gets more and more unsettlingly creepy as she grows up.

hmm, that sounds familiar.... :p


I wasn't expecting the T-1000 and now I'm really hyped to see what happens next.

My only issue with the introduction of a T-1000 is that it really highlights the difference in budget between TV and movies. The most recent episode had probably the worst morphing I've seen since the mid-'80s.


And again, to quote Ain't It Cool: The TV Connors remain 90 IQ points lower than the movie ones. T2 Sarah Connor would never keep dropping John back into high school like that.

Yeah, what's up with that? Is learning algebra and conversational French really going to help him become the savior of humanity?


Does anyone else think that the lady playing Sarah Conner is really, really bad at this acting thing? She sounds so wooden, practically bored even. River is playing a robot, and she sounds more animated than Sarah Conner! I can't put my finger on exactly why, but she is just so unconvincing in her delivery.

Agreed. I think she's trying so hard to affect an American accent that she forgets to act....


Now i only caught the second half of episode 2 im gonna watch the first half today and it might change some things for me, but i think Cameron was acting really weird. The whole taking along time to respond to Sarah's questioning. I know its probably for dramatic effect but this time it all seemed really lazy.

I noticed that as well. I almost was thinking that I missed something to explain why she was acting like that. To me it seemed like there was a delay; my original theory was that she was under some sort of remote control (possibly by the T-1000?), thereby causing a delay in her reaction times. But now I'm not so sure....


Yeah- how the hell did they get security clearances in one day?! I know that government is slower than the private sector, but gov't security clearances take MONTHS. And, even using fake IDs and documents, there is no way that they could have been cleared so fast.

Unless, of course, they knew someone with a supercomputer in her head. :rolleyes:

[dxf]

Now i only caught the second half of episode 2 im gonna watch the first half today and it might change some things for me, but i think Cameron was acting really weird. The whole taking along time to respond to Sarah's questioning.

Tying in with the "I LOVE YOU!" speculation/questioning... Maybe she really IS pregnant. In the first trimester, the hormones make some women's head go all spacey.

Yeah, that's it. Definitely pregnant. In the future, John Connor uses time-travel technology to get everybody laid. His mom, his friend, himself. No wonder he's recognized as such a leader.

[Starbuccaneer]

Unless, of course, they knew someone with a supercomputer in her head. :rolleyes:

Cop out. And unless they start giving me more substantial Summer Glau, not sufficient.

[joeedh]

Yeah- how the hell did they get security clearances in one day?! I know that government is slower than the private sector, but gov't security clearances take MONTHS. And, even using fake IDs and documents, there is no way that they could have been cleared so fast.

Eh my brother (who's getting a security clearance) told me they can give you a temp one in 2-10 days, and that's for the tech support job he's in. Not sure what it would be for a janitor.

[joeedh]

EDIT: THIS IS ABOUT SEASON 2, EPISODE 2. Coffee hasn''t kicked in yet.

First reaction: Boo.

The thing at the end, the hand-written message: That's emblematic of what's wrong with the whole series: Some kind of crazy, flashy stuff that's done for dramatic value, with little practical value.

And again, to quote Ain't It Cool: The TV Connors remain 90 IQ points lower than the movie ones. T2 Sarah Connor would never keep dropping John back into high school like that.

Yet I'm still watching.

I think you could make arguments about the HS aspect. . .seems to me keeping John locked up for 18 years would be as great a mistake. He does need to be around people if he's expected to be this great leader. Using HS is ridiculously cliche, but then, there isn't exactly much else to use.

And btw, I have this theory. I think it's intrinsically impossible for either the machines or the humans to win. Since if they stop the resistance in the past, they no longer ever had the need to develop time travel in the first place. And if the humans stop the machines in the past, then the machines would never exist. So it's kindof like a cycle, and time travel incidents where one group wins over the other can simply never happen. Only the ones resulting in stalemates can exist, since it maintains the status quo (except for pushing the doomsday date further and further ahead).

Joe

[joeedh]

I caught the episode on Hulu today. Pretty fair episode. It seemed to me be a set up episode. Sarah with cancer, John Cameron relation, and the T-1000 setting the machines on the pather to take over. One thing I enjoyed in the episode was the music. There was one theme in there that really reminded me of Bear's work on BSG.

That's likely because Bear McCreary does both shows :)

Joe

[joeedh]

What really annoyed me was that they never explained how they repaired her chip. Even "modern" microchips would be extremely difficult to repair without specialized equipment; advanced tech from the future? No way. I mean, they didn't even have the right screwdriver! Are we supposed to assume that they have access to an electron microscope and an array of delicate, complex tools, not to mention the technical skill to repair what's essentially a tiny supercomputer?

My impression is that John simply cleaned it and it was fine. There was no real repair involved. One reason why it was so incredibly stupid for him to turn her back on, since he hadn't really done any repair at all.



difference in budget between TV and movies. The most recent episode had probably the worst morphing I've seen since the mid-'80s.


There's a rather large difference between 2d and 3d morphing. 2d morphing is a rather easy matter (in comparison) of image convolutions that "morph" between two video feeds or still images; 3d morphing actually requires multiple models (only 2, if your lucky and you can get a fluid simulation to work, more if you actually have to do it manually). I thought they did a fairly good job with this, personally; getting it to blend with the actor at the beginning/end of the morphing I imagine must be especially annoying.



Agreed. I think she's trying so hard to affect an American accent that she forgets to act....

You know, I just don't get it, she seems believable to me. . .I must just be able to suspend disbelief more easily or something.

[SpinnyShip]

Seriously, there need to be some more people here that think that this series is a bunch of craaaaaaaaaaaaap. I don't know what's more overrated, this or Heroes. It's a disgrace to the movies in so many ways.

But I guess the reason why almost noone here dislikes it is because if you don't like something, you simply don't go to the length of posting about in a forum. Except when you are so enraged about it that you have to vent somewhere. There has to be some kind of rule about that.

So, what are my negative points you ask?
In short:
-Writing
-Acting
-Directing
-Melodrama
-"Jokes"
-References
-Plot

Would you like it just as much if it weren't a spinoff of one of your favorite franchises? I doubt it.
Would I like it? Probably.

But I'll keep watching. Just like Heroes. It remains entertaining, even if it's painful.

enjoy

[Pike]

But I guess the reason why almost noone here dislikes it is because if you don't like something, you simply don't go to the length of posting about in a forum. Except when you are so enraged about it that you have to vent somewhere. There has to be some kind of rule about that.


That's the "Lucas Rule."

[heaven_on_mars]

Interesting...

It looks good, but I question whether it would be a sustainable story line for tv series...

The same terminatoresq fights each week would get a bit tedious... they would have to come up with something to keep the story moving.

You hit it on the head. I have watched every episode and they are all starting to feel the same. If they do not inject some seriously good plot twists into this, I am going to stop watching.

[deathbytray]

But I'll keep watching. Just like Heroes. It remains entertaining, even if it's painful.


The way I see it: No, it's not BSG or Firefly. The acting is wooden and the dialogue is clearly written by a pack of drunken rabid monkeys. No, it's not perfection. But this is FOX. Did we really expect perfection from FOX? Did I expect 1/10 of perfection from FOX? No, not even that. I'm happy just to have a scripted sci-fi show on TV.

There are plenty of other things on TV that are also utter crap. I'd rather watch sci-fi crap than non-sci-fi crap. Frankly I'm glad to have Terminator: SaChro, rather than "When Koalas Attack" or "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire Shemale".

[heaven_on_mars]

I guess so-so Sci-fi is better than another reality show, especially the kind that Fox puts out, but it just seems like such a good license as Terminator could have been and should have been better. If I was producing the show, I would write a show killing off the worst of the actors and introduce new characters that will hopefully be more interesting and better acted. The writers really need to find some new layers of complexity to the show or it will not get renewed.

[Emilyfromohio]

While it might be the same thing every week, I really ejoy it. Its still better then most of the stuff on tv.

[SpinnyShip]

well, I have list. wonderful beautiful lists.

Current shows that I watch:

The Office
House MD
Simpsons
Family Guy
South Park
Pushing Daisies
Desperate Housewives (less interesting theme, but still better than Heroes
Heroes (still better than SCC)
SCC (still better than Knight Rider)
Knight Rider (we'll see about that)

Hierarchie FTW!

oh and FYI, best series ever: Gilmore Girls!

There I've said it. Not even a joke. People just don't get it.


cheers

[heaven_on_mars]

Gilmore Girls, hmmmm, best series ever, hmmmmm, no, I can't agree. Everyone has their own tastes. For me, picking one series would be very hard. House is a great series. The Simpsons is an institution, but they clearly have some seasons were the quality took a dip.

If I had to pick one series, LOST has hooked me. The way they play with flash backs and flash forwards, the plot twists, and so on, is great. If someone would have told me a show was going to have ton of flashbacks, I would have said they are insane, but LOST makes it work. The acting is generally solid and the pacing is usually good.

[Keara]

Episode 3 of this season...hmmmm....

The Hubs hated it. He says it was "all over the place. I actually liked it. I liked seeing some of Cameron's backstory, though there could have been more explanation as to how she was created from Allison. It was creepy and sad seeing Allison struggling to escape and survive in that aircraft carrier / prison. I personally thought the wide shot where you saw that it was an aircraft carrier was pretty cool.

So, what's with Cameron now? She's going all haywire. She told that half-way house woman that she's going to "kill John Connor and hang his head on a pike for all to see." Yeah, I can see why the lady would call the authorities. Great. Now, they'll be looking for her. The family just can't stay under the radar, not even when they aren't being chased by another terminator. Sigh. Yeah, they're starting to look like morons and wtf with John not telling his mother that Cameron was missing. I get that he's all "willful teenager" right now but COME ON. I'm wondering where this is leading. Cameron also told that woman she is "an infiltrator." Apparently in the future she was designed to infiltrate the Connor camp because she looks like Allison Young...ok. So what was Allison Young's significance? ("Cameron" told Allison--"I can see why he chose you." Is "he" John or someone else?) Is Cameron currently in infiltration mode, waiting to kill John or is she going back and forth? John knows something's up because of the obvious lie she told at the end of the episode about the necklace. There were a lot of interesting developments in the Cameron storyline, in my opinion.

OK, Sarah and the neighbor...an OK "b" story. I see that the complication there is having the cop hanging around. Thus, Sarah is encouraging the neighbor that she can "do it on her own." So wrong. Sarah does so much ends justifies the means stuff...I honestly never know which moral code she's going to use from one week to the next. I get that she's conflicted, but I'd like her to be less wishy-washy, personally.

Shirley Manson's face/make-up is still bugging me. She just looks--weird. I can't get over it. Maybe it's the HD, maybe not. I'm so distracted by her looks that I barely pay attention to what is actually going on in her scenes. Oh, but...hey, HOW did she get a DAUGHTER? Who's side is she on? WTF??? Am I right?

Some grittier dialog would be nice too. Personally, I think it would have been great if Sarah told her ex that his wife's death would be a blessing, because if she had to live through the human apocalypse that is to come if she and John don't stop it ahead of time, she'd rather be dead. Or something like that.

[SpinnyShip]

episode 4. just saying

[Keara]

episode 4. just saying

OK, then...episode 4. :p

[Lady D]

The Hubs hated it. He says it was "all over the place.

I'm leaning that way, but I'll reserve judgement until they do something with the Cameron backstory and the about-to-pop neighbor (or not)


Shirley Manson's face/make-up is still bugging me. She just looks--weird. I can't get over it. Maybe it's the HD, maybe not. I'm so distracted by her looks that I barely pay attention to what is actually going on in her scenes.

boy am I with you on that one. I keep thinking, is Sean kidding????? he does have a thing for good accent, though. she has a perpetual look of vague distaste, as if there's a constant, unpleasant odor in the vicinity.

[WATTMAN]

It Seems To Me There Are A Lot Of Haters Of This Show.i Dont Get It Maybe My Standards Are Lower But I Really Enjoy This Show.i Wasnt Sure If It Would Even Be Picked Up For This Year And Now I Think I'll Be Happy If They Get The First 13 Episodes Aired.i Really Look Foward To It Every Monday And I For One Think Its Really Improved Since Last Year.oh And Just To Add Fuel To The Fire ... I Love Shirley Manson

[Pike]

It Seems To Me There Are A Lot Of Haters Of This Show.i Dont Get It Maybe My Standards Are Lower But I Really Enjoy This Show.i Wasnt Sure If It Would Even Be Picked Up For This Year And Now I Think I'll Be Happy If They Get The First 13 Episodes Aired.i Really Look Foward To It Every Monday And I For One Think Its Really Improved Since Last Year.oh And Just To Add Fuel To The Fire ... I Love Shirley Manson

Welcome aboard, Wattman.

It's been iffy the first couple episodes this season. I've dropped it for now, to be honest. But it inherently holds promise, I just hope it steps up to that promise. Keep me informed.

[Yorick]

Anybody else thought last night's episode (2x05) was the best of the season and maybe of the whole series so far? I thought everything came pretty well together. Derek's last line was pretty chilling too.

[Bugs]

Just started to watch the series and as a scientist I'm a bit upset to see how science and scientists are portrayed. I find it very hostile towards science.
For example, a lot of references to the creation and building of the first atom bombs, and nothing on the motivation of the scientists to do this.

[Pike]

Holy crap.

Seriously, Crap that is Holy.

You can skip season one (watch the pilot, though) but Season Two is just insanely good after the first couple episodes (River insane, just so you know.)

[WATTMAN]

I Told You It Was Getting Better.now If Only More People Would Watch Maybe It Will Last A Full Season.i Want To Know More About Cameron/allison.and More Of Dereks Story Too.

[Pike]

OK, I'm finally caught up. And the "OGRE" is gut-bustingly awesome if you're as old a geek as I am.

[Apollymy]

Anybody else thought last night's episode (2x05) was the best of the season and maybe of the whole series so far? I thought everything came pretty well together. Derek's last line was pretty chilling too.

I wholeheartedly agree. This episode was phenomenal. Derek has been an amazing addition to the story.


Holy crap.

Seriously, Crap that is Holy.

You can skip season one (watch the pilot, though) but Season Two is just insanely good after the first couple episodes (River insane, just so you know.)

I think you can skip some after the pilot, but even in the "meh" episodes, there's a lot of important info. Like in "Queen's Gambit", you find out more about where Skynet might have started, and in "Dungeons and Dragons", you get so much about the future resistence, and you have to watch "The Demon Hand" just to see Summer Glau dance, and "What He Beheld" is worth watching just for the park scene. But yeah, the second season is definitely kicking some major ass [sorry Barb].


I Told You It Was Getting Better.now If Only More People Would Watch Maybe It Will Last A Full Season.i Want To Know More About Cameron/allison.and More Of Dereks Story Too.

I only watched the first season over the summer. Now I'm hooked. And I agree. The Cameron/Allison story definitely piqued my interest and Derek's story has proven to be well worth exploring. I can't wait for more!

[Nickname Boomer]

Just started to watch the series and as a scientist I'm a bit upset to see how science and scientists are portrayed. I find it very hostile towards science.
For example, a lot of references to the creation and building of the first atom bombs, and nothing on the motivation of the scientists to do this.

I think you raise a good point here at first I wrote a hilarious response about a robot being very hostel to folks named Connor more than science. and we should all just enjoy the robot killing fun. but then it hit me there is a good point. The basic premise is very anti technology. on its face. but i find it reasonable within the context of the story. i mean no matter the reasoning of making a weapon like the Atomic Bomb. it's a soul destroying thing. if what you create can be used to kill Millions of people. there is no good part in that. So by my thinking being hostel towards that science especially when it caused you know... say Armageddon. it kind of makes sense.

that and its like transformers with boobs...:p

Props to Emily, who may have just found the secret to get any guy to watch anything. just add boobs.

Pride and predujice is just like transformers with boobs...

[Uchiha Daisuke]

Leonard and Sheldon discuss the Terminator universe. :D

ietRIniXMFk

[Lady D]

funny show. Moist killed me in the last episode with "What the frak?"

I fully expect one of them to say "sorrybarb" in the very near future

[dxf]

last week's military academy episode was pretty nifty, and the previous week's was kinda nifty. and when I tuned in this monday, I was really disappointed that there was no new episode this week.

[Pike]

last week's military academy episode was pretty nifty, and the previous week's was kinda nifty. and when I tuned in this monday, I was really disappointed that there was no new episode this week.

I know! I thought the server hadn't...

I mean, yeah, I was disappointed it wasn't on.

[Mr. Lister, Sir]

I know! I thought the server hadn't...

I mean, yeah, I was disappointed it wasn't on.

Stupid Baseball!!

[dxf]

Apparently, Sarah Chronnorcles has been renewed for not only this season, but next. This link also has, as it says, "Pictures of Summer Glau being hot."

http://gawker.com/5065467/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-survive-for-now

[Pike]

Apparently, Sarah Chronnorcles has been renewed for not only this season, but next. This link also has, as it says, "Pictures of Summer Glau being hot."

http://gawker.com/5065467/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-survive-for-now

Weird. I hear about a week ago that they were done after this one. Interesting that it seems to be advertiser driven. I wonder what's going on there.

[Nickname Boomer]

Weird. I hear about a week ago that they were done after this one. Interesting that it seems to be advertiser driven. I wonder what's going on there.

Must buy truck, :)

Hypno-toad :eek:

Must buy truck :)

Hypno-toad :eek:

[Pike]

Oh crap. They're going to introduce Glau-model 800s! They want to keep interest up. It's the only logical explanation!

And The GF is never going to let me get one...

[Mr. Lister, Sir]

Apparently, Sarah Chronnorcles has been renewed for not only this season, but next. This link also has, as it says, "Pictures of Summer Glau being hot."

http://gawker.com/5065467/the-sarah-connor-chronicles-survive-for-now

Reading from the link within a link....It's not another season just the second half of this season. So instead of it being canceled mid season its gonna get canceled at the end of the season....unfortunately...i do like this show.

[Steve]

IT'S FOOOOXXXXXX!!!!!!



What the frak do you expect?

[Nickname Boomer]

IT'S FOOOOXXXXXX!!!!!!

Hypno-toad :eek:

[deathbytray]

Oh crap. They're going to introduce Glau-model 800s! They want to keep interest up. It's the only logical explanation!

And The GF is never going to let me get one...

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n354/dansone/custom_1224348226647_summer-glau-3.jpg

Ok, I don't know about you, but seeing this picture almost brought me to tears. I miss Firefly so much.

[Mr. Lister, Sir]

Man Cameron tore that other Terminator up. That was a kinda freaky fight in the elevator. Then seeing the T-girl all bent up also super wierd. A decent episode but nothing stellar. I hope they move on from this house or something. This season is starting to get a little boring.

[BadgerSpoon]

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n354/dansone/custom_1224348226647_summer-glau-3.jpg

Ok, I don't know about you, but seeing this picture almost brought me to tears. I miss Firefly so much.

I can't believe they got all the blood out of that chair. I wonder how they patched the hole? :(

[deathbytray]

I can't believe they got all the blood out of that chair. I wonder how they patched the hole? :(

You know how they did it so it looks completely like it never happened? They called Winston Wolf.

[BadgerSpoon]

You know how they did it so it looks completely like it never happened? They called Winston Wolf.

Does that mean that Serenity is a small cube now??? :eek:

[Apollymy]

I can't believe they got all the blood out of that chair. I wonder how they patched the hole? :(

Took me a minute, but... *sob*!

[NothingButheRain]

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n354/dansone/custom_1224348226647_summer-glau-3.jpg

Ok, I don't know about you, but seeing this picture almost brought me to tears. I miss Firefly so much.

ME TOO, ME TOO, ME TOO
Keep Flyin !

[missmuffet]

I can't believe they got all the blood out of that chair. I wonder how they patched the hole? :(

:eek: :(

[beach23bum]

Anyone know what the deal is with Cameron? What kind of Terminator is she?

[Pike]

Anyone know what the deal is with Cameron? What kind of Terminator is she?

According to this wiki (http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Cameron_Phillips) she's possibly a 'TOK715'

[beach23bum]

why does she know a human life like it's her own. just so strange.

[Pike]

why does she know a human life like it's her own. just so strange.

I suspect the writers are still working that out themselves.

[beach23bum]

Totally agree. I can't wait till I see the next few eps.

[GalaxyRanger]

Totally agree. I can't wait till I see the next few eps.

Tell me when somebody shows up naked, I might start watching the show then.

[beach23bum]

well since it's not HBO I guess thats not going to happen, but Summer(cameron) is still the Hottest 28 yr old playing a 17 yr old.

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

... The part I found most interesting was when Cameron said "I love you"....

I wasn't expecting the T-1000 and now I'm really hyped to see what happens next. you saw that too? I was positive that Summer had put that in there just for the version I downloaded as a message to me. Hope I can get the letter out of the mailbox before it's delivered.

[beach23bum]

I watched that ep, she made you believe it when she said it. I went for it.

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

Men's Health magazine took some nice new pictures of the beautiful Summer Glau in what seems to be the ugliest and most unfashionable clothing ever. Take a look for yourself here:

http://www.menshealth.com/women/summer_slideshow.html




oh yeah, I love Summer.

[Lady D]

first two outfits--not so bad

last two--godsawful

[beach23bum]

I'm looking at the pictures; it's as if they are trying to portray her as an older woman. She’s my age and I can't see any of my girl friends dressing like that. They should have pick stuff that shows off her youth and smile. It’s almost like a ad for furniture or something like that.
-Robert

[Pike]

It’s almost like a ad for furniture or something like that.

Heh. A credenza or something in front of her would be an improvement.

[beach23bum]

LOL, totally...

[deathbytray]

Men's Health magazine took some nice new pictures of the beautiful Summer Glau in what seems to be the ugliest and most unfashionable clothing ever. Take a look for yourself here:

http://www.menshealth.com/women/summer_slideshow.html

oh yeah, I love Summer.

Yeah, we all love Summer Glau so very dearly, but well... let's just say that the great minds in the field of fashion photography do not work for Men's Health Magazine. In fact, they seem to be using the same photographer that does K Mart catalogs. Apparently, he brought with him a couple K Mart dresses and lawn chairs, as you can see in the pictures.

[beach23bum]

Thats to0 funny...

[Pike]

Yeah, we all love Summer Glau so very dearly, but well... let's just say that the great minds in the field of fashion photography do not work for Men's Health Magazine. In fact, they seem to be using the same photographer that does K Mart catalogs. Apparently, he brought with him a couple K Mart dresses and lawn chairs, as you can see in the pictures.

Zing!

67890

[Apollymy]

Tell me when somebody shows up naked, I might start watching the show then.


well since it's not HBO I guess thats not going to happen, but Summer(cameron) is still the Hottest 28 yr old playing a 17 yr old.

Well, technically, they were all naked in the first episode.

[beach23bum]

Does anyone know how the show is fairing among all the other shows out there. I didn't know if it's going to stay for a while or get canx like alot of other scifi shows in prime time.

[dxf]

Does anyone know how the show is fairing among all the other shows out there. I didn't know if it's going to stay for a while or get canx like alot of other scifi shows in prime time.

It's been renewed for the second half of the second season, but beyond that looks iffy.

I'm digging this season more than last season's, and I liked last season. It'll be a bummer if they have to wrap it all up in the last four eps. Or if they leave it hanging forever.

A belated welcome aboard, BeachBum. You're certainly showing a real commitment to staying up on the Sci-Fi. And doing more than your share to spread word about GWC. Not to mention that whole serving-the-country thing. Cheers.

[beach23bum]

THX DXF, I know I've been on here alot lately, the navy finally started upgrading its internet at sea. we have it most of the time, unless something happens to bring it down. I hope to keep more up to date with things now. before it was trying to get caught up in aa a3 or 4 day port visit to where ever.
I'm totally digging it too, trying to get all the guys I work with in it as well. I'll put in on when ever I get a chance even if I've seen it 40 times.
as a shop we do re-watchs alot, and between 8 guys all with dvd's and massive hard drives we have tons of stuff to watch. I'm currently watch DS9. one is doing Star Trek TNG. others are doing The Big Bang Theory. which is a great show that I hope sticks around for a while too. I've got 4 new people in too.
I just love comming on here and talking to people that love SciFi. my wife is much more of a English/Theater person, not much SciFi. I'm more History and Scifi. I was telling Pike GWC is a great group of people, and welcome new people all the time.
-Robert

[Rowan]

I'm a die hard Terminator lover, yes even T3. And I was super excited when they announced SCC coming out. Then when they added Summer Glau to the cast I was in heaven. Okay, yeah season one was pretty bleh. Good idea, not well planned out. I saw Ellison coming to their side early on so meh. Now the addition of Garrett Dilahunt as Cromartie was briliant. That man does psycho WELL!! Adding Shirley Mason into the cast.... YES!!!!!! But what really is doing for me this season is....*gulp* Brian Austin Green. Scary no? I can almost....not quite, just almost, forgive him for 90210. He's actually matured very well and I like the way he's playing Derek. Plus the whole 16th birthday in the park thing just had me in tears. Bravo!

I'd love to see this one go for several more seasons because the concept it sound. I just don't think they can pull it off.

[BadgerSpoon]

Just stumbled across this and thought I'd share. Enjoy. :)

Terminator vs. Highlander: The Sarah Connor McLeod Chronicles (http://www.mattresspolice.com/2008/02/terminator-vs-highlander-sarah-connor.htm)

[deathbytray]

Just stumbled across this and thought I'd share. Enjoy. :)

Terminator vs. Highlander: The Sarah Connor McLeod Chronicles (http://www.mattresspolice.com/2008/02/terminator-vs-highlander-sarah-connor.htm)

BWAHAHAHA. Mario Van Peebles! Belgian Waffle!!! :D

[AfleetAlex]

I'm with you. It's nice to see her smile, but they didn't have anything better for her to wear? She's adorable. Those dresses did nothing for her.

[Apollymy]

*snip* But what really is doing for me this season is....*gulp* Brian Austin Green. Scary no? I can almost....not quite, just almost, forgive him for 90210. He's actually matured very well and I like the way he's playing Derek. Plus the whole 16th birthday in the park thing just had me in tears. Bravo! *snip*

Agreed- Brian Austin Green grew up pretty! And that park scene and the scene in the truck where he tells John the future story of the kid from the military school had me bawling!

[deathbytray]

Agreed- Brian Austin Green grew up pretty! And that park scene and the scene in the truck where he tells John the future story of the kid from the military school had me bawling!

Well, if any man in the world knows how to act, it's gotta be the man who pretended to love Tory Spelling for ten years.

[beach23bum]

It's been renewed for the second half of the second season, but beyond that looks iffy.



Thats funny, now show are being ordered in Half Seasons... more waiting of us that love these shows.
-Robert

[Emilyfromohio]

Bad news is its going to Fridays. It will be an interesting lineup for a few weeks. One hour of Sarah Connor, one hour of Dollhouse, one hour of BSG. Of course, none of these shows will most likely be back nextg\ fall, anyway. Friday is death row for fox.

[Splatterson]

Emily! Long time, no see! How's school? :)

[dxf]

Finally caught up on the last two weeks' shows. That's two of the best ones yet. Sarah's trunk scene was gnarly. And the Cromartie Story had an odd resonance to it.

possible spoiler:

No way are they gonna keep Cromartie dead. I don't think so. Or would they?

[Rosaleen Dhu]

Finally caught up on the last two weeks' shows. That's two of the best ones yet. Sarah's trunk scene was gnarly. And the Cromartie Story had an odd resonance to it.

possible spoiler:

No way are they gonna keep Cromartie dead. I don't think so. Or would they?

It stuck me as an incredibly bad idea to bury the body to go back and destroy later.

[Pike]

It stuck me as an incredibly bad idea to bury the body to go back and destroy later.

I smell future plot point.

[Rosaleen Dhu]

I smell future plot point.

Ding ding! Me too. Perhaps
since Ellis knows where it is, and is working with what's her name T-1000 lady, it'll tie into her plot somehow.

[dxf]

spoilage from 2nite's episode:

in the preview of the next episode, they're already digging him up.

[Keara]

spoilage from 2nite's episode:

in the preview of the next episode, they're already digging him up.

Yeah, I saw that too.

Gotta' love the spoilery previews. Fox and Sci-fi...*shaking my head*. NOT!

And really...the burying Cromartie thing was just another ridiculous DUMB thing the Connors did. OK, they couldn't get him across the border easily. Could they have split us, stayed longer and each have obtained one of the ingredients they needed to make the thermite to burn the frak out of him, so as not to raise suspicions? I'm just sayin'. Clean up before you leavel, people. Or bring the Thermite with you next time. Tell the Mexican authorities it's fireworks for Dios de la Muertos (probably butchering the spelling). I just get so frustrated with the dumb decisions this family makes! :mad:

[dxf]

Idea for a ratings boost:

Sarah Connor Meets Sarah Silverman:

River says: "In the futute, Sarah Silverman's humor will boost the morale of the Resistance, making it possible for them to persevere. She must be protected."

...

Also, what happened to Dean Winters, Connor's paramedic ex-love interest whose wife got whacked? I think that guy's great, but he's always landing on shows where they give him squat to do and write him out under some sketchy plot developments.

[Mr. Lister, Sir]

Am i the only one who is growing very tired of Johns girlfriend chick. I hated when Chromarti knocked on the Connors door and John started freaking out and the chick was like "oh ill just tell him to go away." I was hoping Cromarti would just punch a hole in her head. I can't wait till she dies or gets dumped.

[Cackleberry]

Agreed- Brian Austin Green grew up pretty! And that park scene and the scene in the truck where he tells John the future story of the kid from the military school had me bawling!

Oooo, yes, very pretty. I like his stubble. He's such a good actor. I never liked his character in 90210 very much but I was in my tweens and had a crush on him.


It stuck me as an incredibly bad idea to bury the body to go back and destroy later.




And really...the burying Cromartie thing was just another ridiculous DUMB thing the Connors did. OK, they couldn't get him across the border easily. Could they have split us, stayed longer and each have obtained one of the ingredients they needed to make the thermite to burn the frak out of him, so as not to raise suspicions? I'm just sayin'. Clean up before you leavel, people. Or bring the Thermite with you next time. Tell the Mexican authorities it's fireworks for Dios de la Muertos (probably butchering the spelling). I just get so frustrated with the dumb decisions this family makes! :mad:

I completely agree. Ellis got it across the border somehow, and as a cop they could have taken advantage of his knowledge. Either that or someone stay there and guard it while the others went home for the thermite and bring it back.

I also thought John gave up on trying to find out what Ellis knew about it way too easily. Who else could have possibly known where it was?


Am i the only one who is growing very tired of Johns girlfriend chick. I hated when Chromarti knocked on the Connors door and John started freaking out and the chick was like "oh ill just tell him to go away." I was hoping Cromarti would just punch a hole in her head. I can't wait till she dies or gets dumped.

I don't really like her character, she's a bit annoying, but I do like to see another side of John, the "in love" softer side, and I think it is interesting for him to have to deal with what that means for him. Makes his character a bit more complex I think.

[Pike]

I don't really like her character, she's a bit annoying, but I do like to see another side of John, the "in love" softer side, and I think it is interesting for him to have to deal with what that means for him. Makes his character a bit more complex I think.

Well, didn't everything get a leetle more interesting there?

[BadgerSpoon]

Dios de la Muertos (probably butchering the spelling)

Not if you meant to say "God of the Dead". :D

(I think you mean "Día de los Muertos".)

[beach23bum]

Anyone want to make some predictions on how long John with stay in the DARK about his little Girl Friend from the Future? I give 2 more episodes or till the end of season of 2.0 since we know it was cut in two.
-Robert

[Cackleberry]

Well, didn't everything get a leetle more interesting there?

I didn't know what you meant until I saw last week's episode last night. Holy crap, that was cool! It's good that her storyline is a little more interesting than at first, as otherwise she would have been in it for a lot of episodes for no particular reason. Also, is John not going to school at all anymore?

[shrekjdr]

I just watched the last ep ! wow very curious about the riley story now! So I am thinking jessy came back with Riley to get john back on track? So from the first ep when they traveled fwd in time John still leads them but maybe he is more machine like and cameron grew up with and helped him build his army!
So glad the have a full 2nd season and this show gets better and better!

[Cackleberry]

I just watched the last ep ! wow very curious about the riley story now! So I am thinking jessy came back with Riley to get john back on track? So from the first ep when they traveled fwd in time John still leads them but maybe he is more machine like and cameron grew up with and helped him build his army!
So glad the have a full 2nd season and this show gets better and better!

I was thinking that Jessie just got to Riley early because she was in foster care - an easy target. It didn't even occur to me that she might have come back too. Without going back and looking I thought that Riley was around much earlier than Jessie. Although I guess she could have arrived earlier and we just didn't get introduced to her.

[Pike]

I was thinking that Jessie just got to Riley early because she was in foster care - an easy target. It didn't even occur to me that she might have come back too. Without going back and looking I thought that Riley was around much earlier than Jessie. Although I guess she could have arrived earlier and we just didn't get introduced to her.

Damn. I didn't even think that Riley might not be from the future. But she could very well be a local (temporal) girl who just bought into Jessie's line...

On reflection, I'm still leaning towards her being from the future. Her reactions just seem so visceral.

[Cackleberry]

Damn. I didn't even think that Riley might not be from the future. But she could very well be a local (temporal) girl who just bought into Jessie's line...

On reflection, I'm still leaning towards her being from the future. Her reactions just seem so visceral.

Good point, she was very passionate. I think that either explanation is plausible however.

[Cackleberry]

It just occurred to me, what did Cromartie do with the body of the James Ellison terminator impersonator? He hoists it over his shoulder and takes it with him.

[Nickname Boomer]

It just occurred to me, what did Cromartie do with the body of the James Ellison terminator impersonator? He hoists it over his shoulder and takes it with him.



He dressed him up and they have a tea party. Just like Alice in wonderland.

[Cackleberry]

He dressed him up and they have a tea party. Just like Alice in wonderland.

Maybe he did do that, only something different than a tea party

[Nickname Boomer]

Maybe he did do that, only something different than a tea party

It always comes back to the robot lovin' act of 2028, ;)

[Cackleberry]

It always comes back to the robot lovin' act of 2028, ;)

Or more specifically, the anti-robot lovin' act ;)

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

Maybe he did do that, only something different than a tea party
spoiler for dirty thoughts...
inter-racial terminator gang-bang?

[beach23bum]

who called it about James Ellison being a terminator? we know more than likely he's not, but we still got to see him as one.

the back door to the computer system, where do we see that going? what does that company give to SkyNet? they are so many different roads right now, where will the show go?

about John going to school I guess he's done with that. with the fate of the world on him, who has time for high school? finally a 17yr old that is the center of the universe, or at least the Terminator Universe.
-Robert

[Doc]

about John going to school I guess he's done with that. with the fate of the world on him, who has time for high school? finally a 17yr old that is the center of the universe, or at least the Terminator Universe.
-Robert

You'd have thought he'd learned his lesson about going to school when a sub tried to kill him.

[Cackleberry]

You'd have thought he'd learned his lesson about going to school when a sub tried to kill him.

The funny thing to me is that if they are successful in stopping Skynet, he'll have to do his Year 12 as an adult.

I'm wondering why they haven't tried to follow any leads as to who bought the Turk

[Emilyfromohio]

I hate to tell you the more I watch this season the more I begin to love it. And with heroes getting so colluded, and with PUshing Dassies and Our Own Worst enemy gone, its about the only tv show I looke forward to on a week to week basis.

Maybe its just me feeling withdraw from really great shows, or maybe the show is really getting better. The second season started out very slow, but these last few episodes have laid alot of great plotlines that I really want to see pla And I think they ahve the talent to do it...but I cant' see a resovled plot ocming out of these next 13 episodes.

[Pike]

Maybe its just me feeling withdraw from really great shows, or maybe the show is really getting better. The second season started out very slow, but these last few episodes have laid alot of great plotlines that I really want to see pla And I think they ahve the talent to do it...but I cant' see a resovled plot ocming out of these next 13 episodes.

Don't be afraid to love it, Emily. Think of Firefly.

[Emilyfromohio]

Okay fine then...I love Sarah COnYOu want the truth? I LOVE SARAH CONNOR. There I said it.

[dxf]

I hate to tell you the more I watch this season the more I begin to love it. And with heroes getting so colluded, and with PUshing Dassies and Our Own Worst enemy gone, its about the only tv show I looke forward to on a week to week basis.

Maybe its just me feeling withdraw from really great shows, or maybe the show is really getting better. The second season started out very slow, but these last few episodes have laid alot of great plotlines that I really want to see pla And I think they ahve the talent to do it...but I cant' see a resovled plot ocming out of these next 13 episodes.

The show IS getting better. Last night was nifty.

[Big Hairy Bee]

Last night was "nifty" indeed. This show has really picked up over the last several episodes. The ability of the terminators to interact and blend in rather than being singleminded assassins has made for some good stories with both River, err Cameron and the model that went to the 20's by mistake.

[Pike]

Okay fine then...I love Sarah COnYOu want the truth? I LOVE SARAH CONNOR. There I said it.

You should call that in. :D

[beach23bum]

The show is really heating up. the whole Idea of a Terminator going back in time to the wrong date is great. instead of him building a mass army or something, he biulds a building that he Frack up and then shuting down in the wall... wierd. wonder what happens in 2010?

anyone with me and hoping that Rilly will be gone soon? I hope camron snoops on her and finds out the truth.

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

The show is really heating up. the whole Idea of a Terminator going back in time to the wrong date is great. instead of him building a mass army or something, he biulds a building that he Frack up and then shuting down in the wall... wierd. wonder what happens in 2010?

anyone with me and hoping that Rilly will be gone soon? I hope camron snoops on her and finds out the truth.
yeah, i just watched it, this show is getting better every week. If Fox makes a bonehead move and tries to axe this show, I will build a terminator to destroy Fox.


And Riley, I bet she's a reprogrammed Terminator. Just cemented the notion with the whole lighter bit and how she said she likes shiny things.

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

Don't be afraid to love it, Emily. Think of Firefly.it's exactly like firefly except summer talks more!

[beach23bum]

in the weeks ep, Summer was looking very HOT. she must have done something with her hair...

[dxf]

I loved the end bit with Cameron. How the whole episode leads you to want to believe she's been acting a certain way for a certain reason. Then at the end, you realize maybe not...

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

in the weeks ep, Summer was looking very HOT. she must have done something with her hair...
yeah, she always looks good. I noticed that she has a thing going on with one of her eyebrows, one has a little "bean" at the end.

[Cackleberry]

yeah, i just watched it, this show is getting better every week. If Fox makes a bonehead move and tries to axe this show, I will build a terminator to destroy Fox.

Anything you need to assist you in that task, let me know


in the weeks ep, Summer was looking very HOT. she must have done something with her hair...

I think it was a bit more curly, and with some blondish highlights. She also had on a lot more eye makeup. Judicious application of shimmering light colours in the middle of her eyelid looked really nice


I loved the end bit with Cameron. How the whole episode leads you to want to believe she's been acting a certain way for a certain reason. Then at the end, you realize maybe not...

Do you think he killed himself? Or was just getting treatment?


yeah, she always looks good. I noticed that she has a thing going on with one of her eyebrows, one has a little "bean" at the end.

I think it's a mole under her eyebrow

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

I think it's a mole under her eyebrowThat's silly, how would a furry rodent fit under her eyebrow?

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

What year does SCC take place? I was just wondering, I thought it was 2007. Why would there be a sign in a closed building advertising the governers keynote speech 3 years in advance? :D

[Cackleberry]

What year does SCC take place? I was just wondering, I thought it was 2007. Why would there be a sign in a closed building advertising the governers keynote speech 3 years in advance? :D

Ah, now this is what we call a plot device. I'm willing to forgive this show anything as long as it stays on air!

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

Ah, now this is what we call a plot device. I'm willing to forgive this show anything as long as it stays on air!
I know, it's just so obviously wrong, kinda like the terrible way the car john & riley were in was obviously missing the head rests and rearview mirror. They didn't even bother to plug the holes where they yanked the headrests out of the seats :(


Very great episode. I burned it for a buddy of mine hoping to get him hooked on the show. did I say burned? I meant bought.

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

Ah, now this is what we call a plot device. I'm willing to forgive this show anything as long as it stays on air!
another thing i noticed was the completely unrealistic star movement in both Cameron and Stark's HUD. They must be running on bad Windows software, because the stars could never move in the fashion they were shown. The stars travel in arcs relative to the Earth;s rotation. You could never see three stars intersect in a triangular fashion, it would be more like three curved parallel lines.


(I'm the guy who submits these things to IMDB)

[Sefjoe]

another thing i noticed was the completely unrealistic star movement in both Cameron and Stark's HUD. They must be running on bad Windows software, because the stars could never move in the fashion they were shown. The stars travel in arcs relative to the Earth;s rotation. You could never see three stars intersect in a triangular fashion, it would be more like three curved parallel lines.


(I'm the guy who submits these things to IMDB)

About the three stars... anybody else make a strange connection between the three stars and the weird three dot thing on the wall?

[Emilyfromohio]

And did anyone find it weird that Cameron made a "mistake"? I mean, shoudln't a Terminator know when someone is a human?

[Emilyfromohio]

I loved the end bit with Cameron. How the whole episode leads you to want to believe she's been acting a certain way for a certain reason. Then at the end, you realize maybe not...

\I thought she was going bad, again, when she knocked out Rodger. That was a fun five seconds

[beach23bum]

since she never meet Roger I think she took him as a threat. last ep left more un-answered questions. how did Camron get knocked out? why don't anyone go to work for Black Water USA? they have tons of great weapons. I so sick of seeing them carry a 9mm or 45cal. haven't they learned yet that not going to stop a terminator. well B****ing done.
-Robert

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

since she never meet Roger I think she took him as a threat. last ep left more un-answered questions. how did Camron get knocked out? why don't anyone go to work for Black Water USA? they have tons of great weapons. I so sick of seeing them carry a 9mm or 45cal. haven't they learned yet that not going to stop a terminator. well B****ing done.
-Robert
My major problem with this new series is that when a terminator gets knocked out, they are not flaccid like a human. They should be rigid and unmovable. I know this is nit-picking, but it really bothers me.

[beach23bum]

I totally agree about the terminators should be heavy and un-moveable. I guess I'm focused on the weapons since I was born and raised around them. I think it's funny in the last ep, that the young girl was so fast to help out Sarah and turned on her family pretty fast. to bad she didn't stay and join the fight, maybe John would have found a non-freak g/f.

a good weapon for john would be the
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/future-weapons/weapons/zone2/m32/m32.html

[Cackleberry]

I think it is interesting that a six month time span was covered in this episode, obviously from necessity to allow the baby to gestate and give us a more suspensful storyline. However this does mean that Derek will be around for at least six months after they started to investigate the entries on the wall, as there was talk of a character leaving the show.

[beach23bum]

I hope not, he's manning up more than john right now.

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

I totally agree about the terminators should be heavy and un-moveable. I guess I'm focused on the weapons since I was born and raised around them. I think it's funny in the last ep, that the young girl was so fast to help out Sarah and turned on her family pretty fast. to bad she didn't stay and join the fight, maybe John would have found a non-freak g/f.

a good weapon for john would be the
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/future-weapons/weapons/zone2/m32/m32.html

that hellhound doorbuster looks awesome! I bet that would reset a terminator.

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

Okay fine then...I love Sarah COnYOu want the truth? I LOVE SARAH CONNOR. There I said it.
lesbians are cool !!!

[Emilyfromohio]

No I meant I love the tv show Sarah Connor. Man, I hate my own gender too much to be gay hahahaha. If anything, man, Deerke's got it going o, man

Why is everybody always so harsh on this show? So what if they carry around big guns....tehehehe..its very disjointed, but its disjointed in the most entertaining way possible. I don't know, I just need to sit back and enjoy this show untill fox gives it the boot in the spring.

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

No I meant I love the tv show Sarah Connor. Man, I hate my own gender too much to be gay hahahaha. If anything, man, Deerke's got it going o, man

Why is everybody always so harsh on this show? So what if they carry around big guns....tehehehe..its very disjointed, but its disjointed in the most entertaining way possible. I don't know, I just need to sit back and enjoy this show untill fox gives it the boot in the spring.
just go ahead and admit you like girls, it's clear from your first post & then the quick denial. It's okay, we won't judge you.

[64kCylon]

There was a point where the show exhibited deep suck, but then redeemed itself which caused me to revisit the whole thing. There's much going on in subplots! The show isn't all it seems. I now love it.

Anyone notice thenew trtailer for Terminator: Salvation has actors which seems to reflect the characters in Chronicles? I swear I saw Derek's girlfriend in the trailer--and someone who looked like Derek, but wasn't. Are they going to tie the two?

On another note: I like girls. Honest. There. I said it. Baltar is hot, too.

Not so bad.
:)

[Pike]

There was a point where the show exhibited deep suck, but then redeemed itself which caused me to revisit the whole thing. There's much going on in subplots! The show isn't all it seems. I now love it.


I don't know if the first season "exhibited deep suck," (where is GR, anyway?) but it definitely gets the "most improved" award this season.

[Emilyfromohio]

just go ahead and admit you like girls, it's clear from your first post & then the quick denial. It's okay, we won't judge you.

Being a person who doesn't care what anybody thinks, no, Ilike men

[Cackleberry]

Anyone notice thenew trtailer for Terminator: Salvation has actors which seems to reflect the characters in Chronicles? I swear I saw Derek's girlfriend in the trailer--and someone who looked like Derek, but wasn't. Are they going to tie the two?

I noticed that too in the trailer. I had to double check the trailer to make sure it wasn't him!


I don't know if the first season "exhibited deep suck," (where is GR, anyway?) but it definitely gets the "most improved" award this season.

Hear hear. I really liked the first season

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

Being a person who doesn't care what anybody thinks, no, Ilike menIt's ok, being guys, we already imagined a scene in our minds that is more kinky than anything you could do in real life anyways :D

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

What the frak? Stupid show with all it's stupid unanswered questions!

I like how just when I fall in love with riley she tries to off herself. and what was up with her & jessie? Were they fraking on the side? Now with this new flying saucer thingy! AGGGGH!

[Keith Z-G]

What the frak? Stupid show with all it's stupid unanswered questions!

I like how just when I fall in love with riley she tries to off herself. and what was up with her & jessie? Were they fraking on the side? Now with this new flying saucer thingy! AGGGGH!

I know! WTF? Gahh! The suspense!!!!!!!!!11

Semi-relatedly, I forget exactly what it was but the other day I noticed "oh hey, they made a literary reference . . . uh oh, that's it, FOX is gonna cancel them now."

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

I know! WTF? Gahh! The suspense!!!!!!!!!11

Semi-relatedly, I forget exactly what it was but the other day I noticed "oh hey, they made a literary reference . . . uh oh, that's it, FOX is gonna cancel them now."

why do they feel the need to go x-files on us?

[Cackleberry]

why do they feel the need to go x-files on us?

I didn't think they were. Wasn't it just secret government advanced tech?

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

I didn't think they were. Wasn't it just secret government advanced tech?
yeah, but now it's going from the believable to star trek 2008

[Cackleberry]

yeah, but now it's going from the believable to star trek 2008

I disagree. If the modern world the whole saga depicts is going from PCs to terminators in around 15 years, there must be some pretty advanced tech floating around to fill in the gaps

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

I disagree. If the modern world the whole saga depicts is going from PCs to terminators in around 15 years, there must be some pretty advanced tech floating around to fill in the gaps we already have rudimentary terminators, show me a rudimentary flying saucer...

cfaAiujrX_Y


:D

[Cackleberry]

we already have rudimentary terminators, show me a rudimentary flying saucer...

cfaAiujrX_Y


:D

Can't see the pic, but you make a good point. I guess I don't really mind which way the show goes. I'm still really enjoying it

[TighGetsPunchedALot]

Can't see the pic, but you make a good point. I guess I don't really mind which way the show goes. I'm still really enjoying it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfaAiujrX_Y


I still like the show, but was disappointed they went down this road. I'm just hoping it's a dream or hallucination. If the government can build that, they've had T-100's for decades.

[Cackleberry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfaAiujrX_Y


I still like the show, but was disappointed they went down this road. I'm just hoping it's a dream or hallucination. If the government can build that, they've had T-100's for decades.

Could be a hallucination, but it would have to have mass effect.

[livia]

hey guys! been awhile but i'm on vacation and thought i'd see what's going on...and yeh i'm a little freaked out too by the whole 'roswell' ufo thing from the last episode..i am hoping it's a hallucination or dream sequence cause sarah did drink some tea...

also have to say that i am a little disappointed in the riley storyline as well...am i the only one wishing she was just a regular girl and not from the future on a mission? and i think if i went to mexico with a boy and some killer robot attacked me and i found out some stuff i would kinda keep my distance from him...but she's helping him paint his room and bringing him ice cream slushies? i love the show so far and am along for the ride wherever it goes at any rate!! :D

[beach23bum]

they are taking the show for some wierd turnes right now. the advance tech thing, the riley part, I look forward to seeing where it takes us. I think riley will come clean soon and get her killed. sarah may get taken for some time and then get returned but with more questions.