No more Heroes for me

[Solai]

Friends,

I can't do it anymore. I have fought the good fight. I have stuck with Heroes through the good and the bad. I defended the show when it went off the rails and would cite articles quoting the show writer saying, "we know we messed up and we are going to fix it"

I have been patient, but no more. My time is valuable and this is one hour I am going to reclaim for myself.

Normally I watch the show near-live, but this Monday I couldn't motivate myself to watch it. The prior episodes with the crazy carnival guy, Hiro starting a "Dial a hero" agency where his first gig is saving a cat in a tree, Matt Parkman completely at a loss for plot inexplicably determined not to use his power for no reason whatsoever. Claire off to college and her crazy roommate kills herself...can you blame her? She probably read the script.

So last night I finally get around to watching the episode and I did something I haven't dont in years: I stopped watching before the show was over. Like I said, I am an incredibly patient and forgiving man. I am willing to ignore a lot and celebrate what is good in something...but when Hiro decided to go back in time to save the guy who ruined his life because HE XEROXED HIS BUTT I couldn't take it anymore. Done. Cya. Kthxbye.

Am I alone on this, or will you simply respond amazed that I made it this far? Either way I am bidding adieu to Heroes. Thanks for some good times old friend, but you have now burned me enough that I can no longer ignore the pain.

[The Naughtiest Monkey]

I'm giving it until episode 10 of the season.

Cos it can't get worse can it?

[Pike]

I have been patient, but I can't do it anymore. My time is valuable and this is one hour I am going to reclaim for myself.

Just read the updates (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/10/there_now_we_can_stop_watching_heroes.php) on Topless Robot (which you should be reading anyway.) Rob is taking the bullet for everyone else. Although I think they spell it "Bullit".

[roosterpfunk69]

Well i am glad they got rid of the Sylar/Nathan thing pretty quickly. The ending of this episode is makeing sure of that. ( unless he's gonna look like sylar and still think he's nathan)... an I have been hateing the season as well.... but next week's Clair/chick from Californication lesbian episode wil surely be mind-opening. A girl goes bi in college... these guys are original, who would have ever thought that would hapen in real life or that we as fans would be interested in it. These are some writers with their hands on teh pulse.


( I did like Sylar in matt's head f'ing with him and telling the same thing that we were all yeling at the screen- "use your powers you fat douche!"

[Thunderscreech]

Wifey and I gave up on Heroes last week. We didn't realize we had done it until it was time to watch and we both sort of paused... and I said "Hon, I'm ok with not watching this, btw". And she sighed with relief and responded "You know, I am too".

And then we talked about how we just didn't... care anymore. The carnie start to the season was so underwhelming and I have so little invested in the characters, I just don't really care anymore.

[Pete from PA]

I gave up after last season. I haven't watched this season at all. In Season 1, it was one of my favorite shows. Season 2 almost derailed me completely, but I stuck it out. Season 3 gave me hope, but it too became a nightmare, losing some likable characters and creating Nathar. It was also weird killing off the Big Bad before the end of the season. Bad move, because nobody cared after that.

I just can't watch it anymore, not now. Maybe one day, on DVD. Maybe not.

[Uchiha Daisuke]

I think the title of the thread is fitting because it seems like there is no Heroes for the rest of us either. The only person trying to be a hero is....wait for it......Hiro! If he isn't long for the world then where does that leave us? Wait...I guess Peter is saving people but who would remember with the casual way they portray what he is doing, where is the emotion? The only glue that is holding the show together is Sylar. The show also moves so slow and hardly evolves. I get it! The Bennett family is in chaos. Ali Larter is theoretically attractive and you need to keep her in for the demographic even if it is impossible to write an interesting story for her. Don't even get me started in crazy emo Peter. What kind of Hero avoids using his power Matt? I will keep watching because I have the time but please guys we know you are capable of much more. Even Smallville it more compelling. :p

What ever happened to using superpowers in a show about superheroes? :confused:

[Aset]

You are a much better man than I am....errr...anyway!

I gave up last season. They said they knew they had messed up & last season would fix it...I couldn't get through it. I did the same thing only last season. I just couldn't watch.

[NCTibby]

Yeah, I am amazed you made it this far. By the end of volume 4/season 3, I'd had enough of the dropped plotlines, character 180s, Sylar daddy issues and Petrelli angst. And when Fuller jumped ship, whatever optimism I had for this volume was gone. Did no one ever think to sit down and knock out a show bible detailing who's related to whom, who has what power, what are the limitations of those powers, etc.? Just some basic continuity from one volume to another would have been nice.

Good to hear I'm not missing much. Call me if Eccleston ever comes back.

[frakkintalos]

I hear ya, Solai.

I showed up at the frak party for this past week and no one was there. So I did what I do and tried to make the best of it. It feels like a relationship where things have been over for a long time.

Next week, lesbian kiss. Not excited or interested. (But I don't go for that anyway.)

Next week, Sylar's back. This should be making me dance but instead it's a GIANT meh.

I think instead of calling this Volume, Redemption. They should have called it Apathy. I'm not interested in what happens to any of the characters anymore. IMO, Hiro was the best thing about the show and everything they do with his character makes me wince lately. I know what you're gonna say, "Sylar is the best thing." I guess but he has always felt like a one-trick pony to me.

I have to say I'm so disappointed that at this point I've forgotten what was so great about this show in the first place.

[roosterpfunk69]

What ever happend to makeiang them a GROUP OF HEROES!

All the good guys working together, with Suresh and Noah being the "batman" type ( Surresh with the science and Noah with the badassness).

Peter could quit being a whiney girl, and the other heroes.... being heroes.

Instead they keep going for the "these guys don't really want to be heroes" thing.


They have droped the ball.

[Default Prophet]

Stopped watching midway through 2. Stopped watching 1/4th way through 3. Didn't even both with this year

[Casilda]

Am I alone on this, or will you simply respond amazed that I made it this far? Either way I am bidding adieu to Heroes. Thanks for some good times old friend, but you have now burned me enough that I can no longer ignore the pain.

I'm glad I'm not the only one - I watched the first 2 eps of this season and then... well, there were other things I'd rather be doing at 8 on a Monday.

It's sad, because I like a number of the characters in theory... I just don't care what happens to them anymore.

[NCTibby]

What ever happend to makeiang them a GROUP OF HEROES!

Exactly! It was like they were trying so gorram hard to not be the X-Men or the Justice League or whatever. But remember that sense of excitement when they united to take on Sylar in Kirby Plaza at the end of season 1? Vaguely? Or even the previous generation of Linderman, the Petrellis, Deveaux, Bishop, Nakamura, et. al. who got together to save the world.

And like frakkintalos said, the return of Sylar (again) is a definite meh. He's a snarky villain with absolutely no weaknesses, except for the aforementioned daddy issues and perhaps snowglobes. Where are the other baddies? Oh, right, they were captured, killed or allied with Arthur in the span of a few episodes after escaping from Level 5.

I think I threw in the towel during that craptastic eclipse two-parter when HRG had Sylar and Elle in his sniper sights, and yet he gave them time to have sex before he kicked down the door with guns blazing. WTF, writers?!

[THX1966]

I feel the same way. However, since I DVR it, I watch it when there isn't something else, or when having coffee in the morning.

There really is nothing left to like about this show, and Strangely there isn't anything to hate about this show either. it's just become Neutral.


Kiss the cheerleader. bore the world....

[Boxytheboxed]

I couldnt make it half-way through s2
i guess i didnt miss much

[Kirokai]

Heroes to me is like that crazy ex that you think back on from a distance with fondness. And then when you meet them again you realize that no, they really are bats#!t crazy and its best to stay far far away from them.

It makes me sad that the writers wasted all the potential from the first season. I loved this show. I was obsessed with it so much that me and a group from the 9th Wonders board mailed NBC thousands of origami cranes during the writers strike. I had to stop watching live around the middle of the third season and I stopped watching completely by the end of that season. There are some days when I think I should netflix the seasons and try to catch up again - but no, still bats#!t crazy.

[Tom]

Quiting Heroes is easy, I've done it a thousand times. :rolleyes:

[LordCorbin]

Wait, people still watch this show? :D
I cant remember when I stopped watching. All I know is that at some point, instead of wondering why no one had killed that sociopath Sylar, I started wishing. Wishing, with every cell in my body, that Sylar would kill every living thing on that planet and make a throne out of ash and bone to sit on while laughing maniacally till the end of time.
If they end the show with that Ill buy the boxset.

[Armando]

I gave up on Heroes after the fourth or fifth episode last year (whenever they revealed that Peter and Nathan's mother was Sylar's mother and all the time travel crap started). I stuck with the show through the season two mess thinking, "it's the writers' strike that did this in. It'll get better." HA! Nope. It sure didn't.

Frankly, I'm surprised you've stuck with it this long, Solai. Hell, I'm surprised it got renewed.

[Armando]

I hear ya, Solai.

I showed up at the frak party for this past week and no one was there. So I did what I do and tried to make the best of it. It feels like a relationship where things have been over for a long time.

Next week, lesbian kiss. Not excited or interested. (But I don't go for that anyway.)

Next week, Sylar's back. This should be making me dance but instead it's a GIANT meh.

I think instead of calling this Volume, Redemption. They should have called it Apathy. I'm not interested in what happens to any of the characters anymore. IMO, Hiro was the best thing about the show and everything they do with his character makes me wince lately. I know what you're gonna say, "Sylar is the best thing." I guess but he has always felt like a one-trick pony to me.

I have to say I'm so disappointed that at this point I've forgotten what was so great about this show in the first place.

Sylar should've stayed dead at the end of season 1, and most of the characters should've faded into the sunset, as was the original intention. As far as I'm concerned, Heroes is a really cool, 22 episode miniseries which inexplicably kept going.

[Nickname Boomer]

well i still have hope, fool that i am

it seems like a slower better paced storytelling this season. that being said i don't go out of my way to watch heroes but i still watch it.

[Sithwitch]

I can't stop watching. At this point I'm doing it primarily because Ray Park is guest starring and I've had an unholy crush on him since The Phantom Menace.

Plus, I figure it's like the Ultimate Marvel comics. Started off great, turned to crap, and yet I still kept buying in hope that it would get better again. And cemented my resolve to never get involved with anything Jeph Loeb touches.

[Pete from PA]

As far as I'm concerned, Heroes is a really cool, 22 episode miniseries which inexplicably kept going.

It sure worked out like that, didn't it? :(

[Keara]

Am I alone on this, or will you simply respond amazed that I made it this far? Either way I am bidding adieu to Heroes. Thanks for some good times old friend, but you have now burned me enough that I can no longer ignore the pain.

Count me as one of the amazed that anyone, not just you, has made it this far. I spent all last season watching, hoping Sylar would annihilate them all. Seriously. I hate Claire. I hate Peter. Hiro and Ando became caricatures. Parkman's character became so thin you couldn't spread him across a slice of bread. And then the finale...the whole Nathan thing? Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. That was it for me. I officially decided during the summer when I had absolutely no interest in any Heroes info or spoilerage at all. I couldn't be bothered to click on it, so I figured why watch?

Congratulations, Solai, on reclaiming an hour of your life that would be better spent examining your toenails than watching Heroes.

[Keara]

I gave up on Heroes after the fourth or fifth episode last year (whenever they revealed that Peter and Nathan's mother was Sylar's mother and all the time travel crap started). I stuck with the show through the season two mess thinking, "it's the writers' strike that did this in. It'll get better." HA! Nope. It sure didn't.

Frankly, I'm surprised you've stuck with it this long, Solai. Hell, I'm surprised it got renewed.


It got renewed becauses it is NBC's highest rated show. How SAD is that?!

[Keara]

Wait, people still watch this show? :D
I cant remember when I stopped watching. All I know is that at some point, instead of wondering why no one had killed that sociopath Sylar, I started wishing. Wishing, with every cell in my body, that Sylar would kill every living thing on that planet and make a throne out of ash and bone to sit on while laughing maniacally till the end of time.
If they end the show with that Ill buy the boxset.


Amen, brother. Amen. :D

[Armando]

It got renewed becauses it is NBC's highest rated show. How SAD is that?!

Yeah, sad. This is the network that dominated broadcast TV in the 1980s and 1990s. And they still produce some good shows (I'm loving Community, 30 Rock is good, SVU is still decent--hell, I'll still watch original Law and Order when it's on) and they seem to be nurturing their quirky comedies quite a bit. If only they'd left well enough alone and let Tim Kring pursue his original idea of rotating casts for Heroes, rather than trying to make the actors all stars (how's the little golem that is Hayden Pannetiere working out for you, NBC?).

[DawnAZ]

I feel so validated right now. I'm not trying to gloat, but I felt so guilty giving up halfway through last year, I just couldn't take it anymore. Everything felt so directionless. AT least on LOST I knew there would eventually be an intersection point where the timelines crossed.

We all fought the good fight. Thank goodness for SGU starting.

[monster_jester]

While it's still no masterpiece, I really think the show is far more entertaining this season than last. Maybe I'm just a sucker for a thinly veiled homage to "Carnivale," one of my all-time faves that was canceled far too soon.

[dxf]

Me three. I skimmed the season premiere and said frakkit.

I won't list me gripes with the show, lest I seem a hater. But it's one of my pet peeves when a show kills off a character and brings it back. I know different writers and producers and various considerations are involved, but if a show can't commit to its own direction, why should we? And the constant pivoting and flip-flopping -- from character relationships to plot directions -- drove me batty.

[AwsmEngrGrl]

Heroes did the thing that I hate most: they didn't develop a solid arc to fill the season, and they didn't go adventure of the week. If they'd chosen either path, things would have turned out better. It seems like they meander around for most of the season, and at the end of it, nothing has really happened (quit using time travel as an undo/what if button. GAAHH!).

I had tests for the first two weeks of the new fall season, so I caught up on the weekends. I watched the things I wanted to see most first, and worked my way down from there. I could never make myself watch Heroes. It felt like a chore that needed to be done instead of something I wanted to do. If I wanted to do chores, I would clean my apartment (which I will pay anyone $10 to do).

[BadgerSpoon]

So is ANYONE going to watch tonight's episode? After last week's dismal attendance, I've been tempted to stop even bothering with setting up the frak parties (which, frankly, are the only reason I've even considered watching it this long). :(

[Mr. Lister, Sir]

So is ANYONE going to watch tonight's episode? After last week's dismal attendance, I've been tempted to stop even bothering with setting up the frak parties (which, frankly, are the only reason I've even considered watching it this long). :(

Ill be there with you Badger!!!

[BadgerSpoon]

Ill be there with you Badger!!!

OK, I set up a thread (http://forum.galacticwatercooler.com/showthread.php?t=8751) for tonight. It better wow me, or it'll probably be my last. :(

[Keara]

Ill be there with you Badger!!!

Now you've trapped him into watching this week's episode too, you enabler!!! ;)

[Mr. Lister, Sir]

Now you've trapped him into watching this week's episode too, you enabler!!! ;)

Its what i do best!!

[Glimfeather]

Coming from you, Solai, this is saying a lot. I personally gave up on Heroes after "Villains." It must have gotten even worse after that. Many consolations, my dear friend.

[shameless plug]
If you need some entertainment in the meantime, I'll be posting my script "The Wanderlings of South Jude" (http://forum.galacticwatercooler.com/showthread.php?t=8604) in the GWC Writers' Forums.
[/shameless plug]


Friends,

I can't do it anymore. I have fought the good fight. I have stuck with Heroes through the good and the bad. I defended the show when it went off the rails and would cite articles quoting the show writer saying, "we know we messed up and we are going to fix it"

I have been patient, but no more. My time is valuable and this is one hour I am going to reclaim for myself.

Normally I watch the show near-live, but this Monday I couldn't motivate myself to watch it. The prior episodes with the crazy carnival guy, Hiro starting a "Dial a hero" agency where his first gig is saving a cat in a tree, Matt Parkman completely at a loss for plot inexplicably determined not to use his power for no reason whatsoever. Claire off to college and her crazy roommate kills herself...can you blame her? She probably read the script.

So last night I finally get around to watching the episode and I did something I haven't dont in years: I stopped watching before the show was over. Like I said, I am an incredibly patient and forgiving man. I am willing to ignore a lot and celebrate what is good in something...but when Hiro decided to go back in time to save the guy who ruined his life because HE XEROXED HIS BUTT I couldn't take it anymore. Done. Cya. Kthxbye.

Am I alone on this, or will you simply respond amazed that I made it this far? Either way I am bidding adieu to Heroes. Thanks for some good times old friend, but you have now burned me enough that I can no longer ignore the pain.

[coco]

Cool beans! Good for you, man. I've flushed Heroes out my system since S2-S3, when I realized I hated every single character on the show, the writers are just a bunch of twats who just keep making characters and plots worse and worse and worse, and they wouldn't own up to it in any interview I've read, instead saying some crap about "it was too hard to understand for normal people". I understood it perfectly fine, I just thought you basically destroyed every single character on that show in the worst possible way, and your show really really sucks now. Ultimately, it was too hard to keep yelling at the TV for insane plots and nonsensical characterizations, so I finally gave up after a few relapses (hence the S2-S3).

Trust me, your life will be better now that Heroes is out of it. :D Congrats!

[fastcart]

I watched 3.4 episodes this week (I stopped in the middle of an episode 4 weeks ago). It seems more palatable if I let episodes acrue on the DVR then watch them back to back. Dunno why, but it seems to be getting better now.

The weakest subplot in my opinion is Sylar vs Matt. The sorority subplot is a close second.

I do like seeing the deaf Hero. Maybe I'm biased since I'm disabled, but you don't see many people with disabilities on TV. I also like watching HRG trying to readjust his life. The alternate view of what happened 3 years ago was also a favorite moment of the season so far. I just wish they'd tie up what happened to the woman Peter took into the alternate timeline sooner than later.

[Pike]

I watched 3.4 episodes this week (I stopped in the middle of an episode 4 weeks ago). It seems more palatable if I let episodes acrue on the DVR then watch them back to back. Dunno why, but it seems to be getting better now.

The Slice of SciFi guys have mentioned this a few times. Several shows are apparently much better if watched in chunks, rather than the way they're broadcast. (Though, they're pretty down on Heroes, so I'm not sure if this applies there.)

[CodyfromOhio]

Well..I'm still watching..For a reason only god knows..

I have yet to pick up season 3 and am really thinking about selling season's one and two..if anyone would buy them..

Shame really, Heroes could have been a really great show..