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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryper View Post
    Once you watch The Plan DVD, the Shelly Godfrey thing isn't so mysterious anymore.
    Yeah, I haven't watched The Plan in a while, but I can't think of a single question it answered that wouldn't have been better left unanswered. Although I do recall it having some great Cavill moments

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucket View Post
    Yeah, I haven't watched The Plan in a while, but I can't think of a single question it answered that wouldn't have been better left unanswered. Although I do recall it having some great Cavill moments
    I did like seeing Boomer get flipped "on" and "off" ....it did explain a lot of her later breakdowns later in the show....it was really twisting and fracturing her psyche, plus I did enjoy seeing the story of the Five...as well as how this whole thing was a GIANT Cavill tantrum that not even all the 1's agreed about
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    Quote Originally Posted by dxf View Post
    The questions are almost better than the answers.
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    For me dxf nails it.

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    From what I've read in the Blood and Chrome scripts Kara's father (Dreilide) is a member of the 13th tribe and, like Saul and the others, Dreilide left the original earth during the violent war that took place there.

    For those less educated in all things BSG, remember there are 2 Earths. The original earth that the Cylons inhabited and the new earth that the BattleStar people eventually settled.

    So Dreilide leaves Earth 1 with the rest.. He does not participate in "deal" that Saul and the others made to stop the first cylon war because he fell in love with a Human (Socrata - Kara's Mom) who was a Marine in the 1st Cylon War and was injured at the time. Now why don't the other "Original 5" remember him during the series? Do not forget that Number 7 Blocks the original memories. The original 5 regain much of their memories during the series but apparently not that the Original 5 was really the Original 6.

    So Kara is the FIRST human/cylon baby.

    Now why did Kara be reborn? The Resurrection devices left on original earth (developed by Saul and Dreilide) were configured based on DNA and Kara shared this critical link with her father.

    What is not explained is HOW she got a brand new viper and HOW she disappears at the end. It's possible the disappearance is not based on Kara but Adama's imagination that she was with him at that moment.

    So facts from the BSG Series that back this up.

    Socrata dies (human)
    Dreilide is never reported dead (Cylon)

    The song is taught to Kara by her father.
    The song is known by the "Original 5" cylons.

    Kara is driven to draw/paint a Mandala
    Hera is seen drawing a Mandala

    Having read much of Caprica's Season 2 script (although it's been a long time now), Zoe meets Dreilide in Vworld and He gives her something. I don't remember what it was though. Vworld

    The drawing Hera hands Kara is that of music notes that Kara recognizes but doesn't understand. (someone to watch over me)


    And that's that.

    So the mystery of what she is no longer exists, there's some confusing items like the new viper and her disappearing act but I could see a lot of that was cleared up in the script, I just didn't have it on my desk long enough to read it before it had to change hands.

    We'll all find out a lot more when we finally decide to air Blood and Chrome. I know I'm looking forward to it.
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    I really love this idea, but when Kara returned after going BOOM, she still had her tattoos and such. I don't know that Cylon resurrection tech could be so adaptive as that.
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    I was hoping B&C would not even try appending anything to the final five canon. So late after the fact, a revisionist patch job would not be well received, similar to the overall cold reception met by The Plan. And mostly what The Plan tried was to demystify most of the outstanding questions with mundane answers. So I'm still hoping. There's so much story potential in the first Cylon War you don't need any thirteenth tribe element watering down what should be a tight, involved war story centered around Adama. I mean, B&C is a ninety minute pilot! To cram in a parallel origin story in addition to the Colonials and the rebelling killer robots they built can only make for a distracted, overly complicated ninety minutes. None of it could go into depth. Jack of all stories, master of none with more exposition vomiting.

    All I've ever seen over the years, out and about on teh internets, is fans almost universally wanting a meat and potatoes war story in the spirit of Battlestar as military space opera during its first two seasons. I really wouldn't not ignore that opportunity to take a first step towards forgiveness with alienated fans.

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    the more I think about it the more I hope they leave the hell alone "what Kara is".....I don't need a "oh crap, all the mystical force is just a bunch of parasites in your system!?!!?!" moment which ruined all the awesome and fabulousness of being a Jedi....just leave it for speculation and wonder...and her being all a part of "God's Plan" still fits the theme of the series just fine......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott the Hockey Guy View Post
    the more I think about it the more I hope they leave the hell alone "what Kara is".....I don't need a "oh crap, all the mystical force is just a bunch of parasites in your system!?!!?!" moment which ruined all the awesome and fabulousness of being a Jedi....just leave it for speculation and wonder...and her being all a part of "God's Plan" still fits the theme of the series just fine......
    If she showed up on Erf in a flashback, it wouldn't bother me. I agree that we don't need an explanation because it would negate all the great speculation.

    Oh. And. There are no such thing as midichlorians. It's an elaborate hoax conjured up by the Jedi to support their elitist propaganda. *adjust tin foil hat*

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    Quote Originally Posted by frakkintalos View Post
    If she showed up on Erf in a flashback, it wouldn't bother me. I agree that we don't need an explanation because it would negate all the great speculation.

    Oh. And. There are no such thing as midichlorians. It's an elaborate hoax conjured up by the Jedi to support their elitist propaganda. *adjust tin foil hat*
    I agree on that....something that adds to the questioning is good...just PLEASSSEEE don't give a defined answer, nothing good comes from it!!

    HAHAHAHA, well played....those aren't the micro-organisms I'm looking for........
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