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The Lonely Toaster
March 14th, 2008, 08:34 PM
A topic came up at work that surprised me. With all the post-modern ironic genre bending that takes place in movies, we could only come up with a few "Good" undead characters. And in particular, no good zombies. (Considering I'm writing a vegetarian vampire love story myself, the concept of some kind of misunderstood zombie seems ripe for a riff.)
So anyway, I'm throwing it to the rest of the class:
Where all the nice undead at?

Angel (and maybe a couple others from the Buffy-verse)
Beetlejuice?
Frankenstein's Monster.
Maybe the "ghost army" from the end of the LOTR trilogy (they were in a kind of limbo, and had some corporeal aspects)
Maybe Mirna Harker (from League of Extraordinary Gents-didn't see it)
Maybe Jacko in Thriller

Casper is all-the-way dead (R.I.P. Richie Rich)
As is Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense

Anyone?

frakkintalos
March 14th, 2008, 09:04 PM
Death Becomes Her (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104070/) - Helen and Madeline

Interview With a Vampire (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110148/) - Lestat

There are a bunch of vampire flicks with great undeads.

My favorite is Gary Oldman as the Count in Bram Stoker's Dracula (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103874/)

There's also Blade (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120611/).

The Balrog from LOTR. Dementors from Harry Potter.

And Sam Wheat from Ghost (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099653/)

Pike
March 14th, 2008, 09:27 PM
Interesting question.

The GF suggest Lestat, although neither of us have read enough to know where he really ends up in the grand scheme.

I'm not sure if werewolves count, but they seem to be frequently conflicted about their true nature. (American Werewolf in London comes to mind.)

*ponders*

Pike
March 14th, 2008, 09:32 PM
Dementors from Harry Potter.

The only Dementor that I can think of that might fit into this category is Barkley:

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Lady D
March 14th, 2008, 10:02 PM
Isn't there a movie out there about a teenage boy who becomes a zombie and then just wants to go to the prom with his girlfriend?

frakkintalos
March 14th, 2008, 10:28 PM
The Balrog from LOTR. Dementors from Harry Potter.

Man, I have had too much to drink. What was I reading? Move along. Nothing to see here.

The Lonely Toaster
March 14th, 2008, 11:19 PM
There were a couple of B-movies that I half remember.
I Was a Teenage Zombie
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093238/plotsummary

and Dead Heat (a buddy-cop/zombie movie staring Treat Williams And Joe Piscopo.
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I do remember both as being craaaaaaaaaaaaaap though.

FireBreathingChicken
March 15th, 2008, 06:21 AM
Fido: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0457572/

Bunnicula: a vampire bunny that drinks vegetables juice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunnicula

Magnus
March 15th, 2008, 10:17 AM
The first person who comes to mind is Rufus, the 13th apostle, but then I realised that he is the dead not the undead.

wisebob134
March 15th, 2008, 12:21 PM
http://www.illustratology.com/blog/uploaded_images/BuddyChrist-775668.jpg

The Lonely Toaster
March 16th, 2008, 11:08 AM
http://www.illustratology.com/blog/uploaded_images/BuddyChrist-775668.jpg

Hmmmm.
Now that's an interesting thought, especially with Easter coming up.

SPOILER: I'm an atheist, and I'm about to blaspheme. Honestly, if you might be offended by the re-imagining of Christian scripture, read no further.

Don't really know the deets here, so I've got some questions.

Timing: Is it written how long it was:
-from when the stone was placed in front of the cave/tomb, to when it was moved.
-How long after it was moved that He was seen
-How long it took before He ascended.
(Yep, a little unclear on the specifics of Lent. Go figure.)
This would be how long, theoretically, He was the walking dead among us, and I wonder if there was enough time for any unseen misadventures.

Better yet--and I'm sure I'm not the first one to wonder this--do the details of the reincarnation lend themselves toward a vampyric re-imagining? Too many daylight problems?
-Didn't see who moved the stone. Could it have been to enter to get to Him, instead of leave?
-visiting angels=other vampires?
-Ascension=mist/bat transformation?

Would be really interesting if it was a story of a truly "good" vampire, and not just another (excuse the pun) Oh my God/con on humanity/people are so easily manipulated Twilight Zone story.

Magnus
March 16th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Hmmmm.
Now that's an interesting thought, especially with Easter coming up.

SPOILER: I'm an atheist, and I'm about to blaspheme. Honestly, if you might be offended by the re-imagining of Christian scripture, read no further.

Don't really know the deets here, so I've got some questions.

Timing: Is it written how long it was:
-from when the stone was placed in front of the cave/tomb, to when it was moved.
-How long after it was moved that He was seen
-How long it took before He ascended.

This would be how long, theoretically, He was the walking dead among us, and I wonder if there was enough time for any unseen misadventures.

Better yet--and I'm sure I'm not the first one to wonder this--do the details of the reincarnation lend themselves toward a vampyric re-imagining? Too many daylight problems?
-Didn't see who moved the stone. Could it have been to enter to get to Him, instead of leave?
-visiting angels=other vampires?
-Ascension=mist/bat transformation?

Would be really interesting if it was a story of a truly "good" vampire, and not just another (excuse the pun) Oh my God/con on humanity/people are so easily manipulated Twilight Zone story.
I think he was acutally referencing my post, I was made a reference to Dogma and the Buddy Christ was a part of that movie.

frakkintalos
March 16th, 2008, 02:23 PM
When I first saw Wisebob's post, I cracked up and remembered Sam Kinison's comedy bit about the resurrection. Sam said, "Normally when the undead are walking around someone starts screaming 'Kill it! Kill it! The Dead have risen. Kill it! But Jesus walks out of the tomb *menacing growl* What!?! Oh my! Oh
wait, It's Jesus! Oh! Hey Jesus, you're a bit dusty there. Here let me get that for ya."

It's better when Sam did it.

If I remember correctly, the whole vampire thing stems from pagan rituals of drinking human and animal blood. It also relates to everlasting life and I believe it gets that from the Christian tradition. I could be totally wrong on that though.

wisebob134
March 16th, 2008, 02:37 PM
I think he was acutally referencing my post, I was made a reference to Dogma and the Buddy Christ was a part of that movie.

I love picking up on references I don't get . Woot!

Any whether you believe in it or not it's still technically a zombie story

frakkintalos
March 16th, 2008, 03:05 PM
http://easyquestion.net/thinkagain/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/mt1135840120.jpg

Magnus
March 16th, 2008, 06:14 PM
I love picking up on references I don't get . Woot!

Any whether you believe in it or not it's still technically a zombie story

So it's just a coincidence that I make a movie reference and the very next post has a picture from that very movie.... that's pretty cool.

Doc
March 22nd, 2008, 03:23 PM
Isn't there a movie out there about a teenage boy who becomes a zombie and then just wants to go to the prom with his girlfriend?

That sorta happened in the musical episode of Joan of Arcadia.