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    Default Marvel's Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. 1.07 The Hub **** SPOILERS ****

    Episode Summary from en.wikipedia.org:

    Coulson and his team arrive at a base called the S.H.I.E.L.D Hub and are given an assignment by it's director Agent Victoria Hand (Saffron Burrows). The assignment calls for Ward and Fitz to head to South Ossetia and disable a weapon device called the Overkill. Skye and Simmons try to find out more information about the mission, since they are not privy to details about the mission which has been classified as Level 8. Simmons manages to tranquilize Agent Jasper Sitwell who catches her in the act of hacking into top secret Level 8 files. Skye deduces from the information that there is no extraction team coming to pick up Ward and Fitz as Coulson learns about this upon catching her. After a talk with Victoria Hand, Coulson and the team proceed to rescue Ward and Fitz (who manage to disable the Overkill device) as S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents move in on the compound. Coulson did find out that the person who brought Skye to the orphanage when she was young was an as-yet-unidentified S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent. However, Coulson does not tell her the full truth about the file and asks May to discreetly investigate the matter further. In the final scene, Coulson (wanting to find out about his recuperation in Tahiti) is denied access to the Level 8 information despite his high level S.H.I.E.L.D. clearance as the person he calls up about it asks if he would like to get approval from Nick Fury about it. Coulson declines and hangs up.

    Episode Recap from abc.go.com:

    Coulson is dragged into an underground bunker by some soldiers who warn that he’s about to meet the interrogator, who is actually an undercover S.H.I.E.L.D. agent named Shaw. The time has come for the end of his assignment. Ward and May storm the area. They take out the bad guys and lead everyone to an escape route from the Siberian prison. Once aboard the bus, Simmons removes the intel Shaw accumulated by pulling a small vile from his nose. The team is bringing the information to a classified location known as the Hub.

    The mission that evolves from the intelligence gathered by Shaw is classified Level 8. Agent Victoria Hand lets Coulson know that a separatist group has built a weapon known as the overkill device. They plan to use it to declare their independence from Russia and Georgia. It produces sonic vibrations that could trigger weapons from a great distance. Skye and Simmons are not part of the briefing. Neither is Fitz, but he is part of the mission. His expertise is needed in the field to disable the weapon. Coulson orders Ward to take care of his partner.

    Ward has a contact that can get them across the border, but the guy turns out to be dead. He and Fitz are about to be blown away by locals when the lights go out. This puts the execution on hold. Fitz endears himself to his captors by fixing the fuse box that he shorted out in the first place. Ward is impressed, as his partner’s actions have them headed across the border. Patrol soldiers try to capture the agents, but Ward is able to neutralize them. He and Fitz go on the run and into hiding. Ward tosses a sandwich Simmons made away. Fitz is furious, and hungry. But search dogs would have picked up the scent. This is just Ward following Coulson’s orders.

    Skye is frustrated that she’s in the dark regarding the mission. She ropes Simmons into helping her get some details. As it turns out, Coulson is having a hard time keeping secrets from his team. A talk with May (where he does all the talking) has him realizing he needs to trust the system. As for his still-in-the-dark agents, they are trying to get info from a restricted hallway. Simmons is stopped by Agent Sitwell. Her attempts to sweet talk her way out of this mess go nowhere fast. So she shoots the guy with a stun gun. Skye tells her to get May as she tries to hack her way into finding out the status of Ward and Fitz.

    Skye comes across a series of redacted documents. She finds the file she needs to learn that there’s no extraction scheduled. She tells Coulson that Ward and Fitz were sent in there to die. She wants to know if he knew there was no extraction plan. Coulson says that information is classified. He then confronts Agent Hand, who had told him there was an extraction team in place. It was a lie. It was told so an unproven agent like Fitz wouldn’t lose focus on the mission. Hand tells Coulson he needs to trust the system.

    Out in the field, Ward and Fitz are able to hitch a ride into the compound containing the device through some clever camouflage maneuvers. They go to work. Fitz dives into the tech end while Ward signals for extraction. He gets an uneasy look on his face after doing so. Fitz takes apart the weapon but disabling it will take time. He has 10 minutes. Ward tells Fitz the extraction team is a bust. He wants him to vacate the area. Fitz isn’t going anywhere. Not until the mission is complete.

    May, Skye and Simmons make plans to become an instant extraction team. It’ll be just the three of them until Coulson lets them know that four would be better. At the compound, Fitz disables the device. They need to get out of there before the bad guys realize this. Too late. Alarms sound. S.H.I.E.L.D. has begun their attack on the compound. Ward takes out several soldiers while Fitz immobiles the rest thanks to modifications he made on the weapon he swiped. However, they are surrounded once they step outside. It doesn’t look good until Agent May pulls up in the bus. The cavalry has arrived.

    Back at the Hub, Agent Sitwell says that the field agents are in the clear. He thought there wasn’t an extraction team. Agent Hand says, “It’s Agent Coulson’s team. They didn’t need one.” On the bus, Fitz lets Simmons know that the sandwich she made for him was delicious. His partner lets him know she shot a superior officer in the chest. It’s been a full day.

    Coulson lets Skye know that he did some digging in regards to the redacted file on her past. He says the person who dropped her off at the orphanage when she was young was a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. It may have been her mother or someone who just found her on a doorstep. Skye gives him a big hug for finding out this much. Coulson is still holding something back because some secrets are meant to stay secret. He asks May to help him find out what really happened as they both gaze down at a photo of what looks to be a dead body.

    Coulson tries to use his Level 8 clearance to access a restricted file. He’s looking for a death and recovery report on a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent. He’s mostly interested in the recovery part. It took place in Tahiti. Coulson is denied access to that particular file. The agent he speaks with on the phone asks if he’d like to make a formal request to Agent Fury. Coulson pauses for a moment before letting him know that won’t be necessary. It seems some secrets truly are meant to stay secret.

    Please use this thread to discuss the series' seventh overall and first season seventh episode The Hub. Rule: Please keep spoilers limited to those revealed during the series up to this episode only.
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    *While watching Fitz try to push the cart through the sliding door*
    Me: You know this show it a little bit like 'Get Smart'?
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    Default Marvel's Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. 1.07 The Hub **** SPOILERS ****

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenatic View Post
    *While watching Fitz try to push the cart through the sliding door*
    Me: You know this show it a little bit like 'Get Smart'?
    Mom: Yep.
    I was sort of wondering during that scene/bit why his bus-mates didn't come to help him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter View Post
    I was sort of wondering during that scene/bit why his bus-mates didn't come to help him.
    Because it was waaaayyyy more fun to watch him try it himself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter View Post
    I was sort of wondering during that scene/bit why his bus-mates didn't come to help him.


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    Its hard to help when you're busting a nut laughing at him looking like a fool

    There were a couple of things I didn't like about this episode.... SHIELD doesn't seem the type to leave people out to dry for no good reason like that
    but the bigger thing I didn't like was Skye acting like a spoiled five year old....wahhhh, daddy won't let me see the plans....no shit....you haven't EARNED it......in that context I was a bit annoyed there was no consequence in them 1. attacking a SHIELD agent .... 2. Breaking into the system .... 3. planning an unapproved extraction...

    maybe this comes into play in the future as they won't be brought in on the big ops anymore.....but then again, they're dealing with the Thor incident next week.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott the Hockey Guy View Post
    Its hard to help when you're busting a nut laughing at him looking like a fool

    There were a couple of things I didn't like about this episode.... SHIELD doesn't seem the type to leave people out to dry for no good reason like that
    but the bigger thing I didn't like was Skye acting like a spoiled five year old....wahhhh, daddy won't let me see the plans....no shit....you haven't EARNED it......in that context I was a bit annoyed there was no consequence in them 1. attacking a SHIELD agent .... 2. Breaking into the system .... 3. planning an unapproved extraction...

    maybe this comes into play in the future as they won't be brought in on the big ops anymore.....but then again, they're dealing with the Thor incident next week.....
    Ya, I had a lot of issues with this episode in general. Big SHIELD isn't a cold, heartless organization. You don't automatically sign up for SHIELD and expect to be sent on a suicide mission without knowledge that's it's a suicide mission. And if it was that friggin' easy to extract them why the frak didn't SHIELD think of it in the first place?

    I'm conflicted about the Skye character during this episode. She was specifically brought in to think outside the box by Coulson yet she not only incited full insubordinate behavior of Simmons but illegally hacked into the stand-alone Hub SHIELD computer system. She also did the right thing and diverted her hacktivist activities towards helping save Ward and Fitz rather than her own personal selfish needs. I guess I come from a perspective that Need To Know means Need To Know and that Coulson's original standpoint on the issue was the correct one. But it clearly failed in this instance and even Coulson had to change his opinion.

    And talking about Coulson - Fury has clearly restricted Coulson from learning exactly what happened to him. But you KNOW Fury is going to be told what Coulson requested. The faltering in the Hub when he said "Tahiti is a magical.....place" was very noticable. This is a plot we won't see stuffed somewhere.

    Part of my issue with this episode is that there was no clear tie-in to the Avengers Movies. There was also no notiable quotes into the Avenger's Universe. This was truly the first episode Shield tried on its own and it failed to bring the big bang that I expect from this show.

    The rating fell again to 6.67 this week. I'll have more to say on this episode after I watch it again but this was not my favorite episode. I'm hoping for more from this show next week.

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    Well if Phil isn't Phil and is just a clone or an LMD, would you want Phil to know it? Probably not....

    I don't mind them stepping away from the Avenger Universe, but to totally ignore all the Marvel super-people possibilities like they are seems foolish to me.....probably why they're losing viewers....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott the Hockey Guy View Post
    Well if Phil isn't Phil and is just a clone or an LMD, would you want Phil to know it? Probably not....

    I don't mind them stepping away from the Avenger Universe, but to totally ignore all the Marvel super-people possibilities like they are seems foolish to me.....probably why they're losing viewers....
    I just saw no reason why SHIELD had to be the ones going in to dismantle this device. Does SHIELD totally ignore country special forces? Plus who made the device? Whoever it is can always make another one. I would assume that you'd have to go and take out the inventor/builder as well.

    I'll have more to say about ratings tonight.

    Would I want Coulson to know? No. Not originally. But he does know something is wrong. He is questioning it hard. First with the full physcial workup and now with the document request. If he is starting to distrust SHIELD than he could be a terrible liability. If I was Fury I would call him in for a chat and fully disclose what he is or what exactly happened to him, else it is just going to get worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter View Post
    Would I want Coulson to know? No. Not originally. But he does know something is wrong. He is questioning it hard. First with the full physcial workup and now with the document request. If he is starting to distrust SHIELD than he could be a terrible liability. If I was Fury I would call him in for a chat and fully disclose what he is or what exactly happened to him, else it is just going to get worse.

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    That's season finale kinda stuff though....at least from the story telling perspective.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott the Hockey Guy View Post
    That's season finale kinda stuff though....at least from the story telling perspective.....
    This is building very rapidly. It's not going to last until the season finale. Now resolution to Raina, the old gentleman in jail and the clairvoyant? That is season finale stuff.


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